Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs

[james]

On 08/07/2016 10:22 PM, Kent Fredric wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 16:49:01 -0500
> james <garftd@×××××××.net> wrote:
>
>> After that feat is accomplished, then a  similar deployment of a
>> gentoo cluster on a those just installed gentoo minimal images, via a
>> few keystrokes (I am flexible on the cluster codes that comprise the
>> cluster). Then (only after those 2 things are robustly accomplished)
>> I do intend to return to my java travails (search out bgo, as I have
>> a long love-hate relationship with java on gentoo).....
>
> I think its probably worth mentioning that there are likely problems
> Gentoo faces around Java that are of a legal manner, not merely
> technical.
>
> Like for instance, the fact you can't install the official Orcale/Sun
> JDK/JRE automatically is due to the fact:
>
> - They prohibit replication/mirroring
> - Their website requires a license agreement acceptance to download
>
> And the latter of these is /plausible/ to automate via curl and some
> "Set cookies" magic ( apparently arch do this ), but falls into a legal
> grey area.
>
>
> If this is a problem we have simply downloading and installing, I'd
> imagine there are other problems we face having it on ready-to-go media.
>

So the minimal default automated installs would not carry java code; OK.
Yep, traversing the install semantics, so it is paused for a licensed 
download, as necessary, is not a show stopper. I'm pretty sure I  used
maven, sbt, icedtea and  curl for these cluster ebuilds in question; 
Apache-Mesos and Apache-Spark. There are hacked ebuilds in BGO. I'm 
pretty sure Mesos was reorganized so all the third party stuff  are 
modular  in such a fashion that the issues you point out have legal 
install solution. In fact Mesos is purported to almost all C++ code
now and the other languages issue are not part ot the core of Mesos,
or something to that effect I read somewhere.


I'm no java expert, so surely a dev with that sort of expertise could 
take a look, and fix them or give me guidance. Mesos installs. My 
Apache-spark ebuild needed some manual fiddling with sbt, during the 
install to get it to install to Spark, so it is a bit broken. 
Apache-Spark is a bit more complex, but it has progressed to version 
2.0, since I hack an ebuild for 1.5. Tons of folks ((big opensource 
projects) use them, so surely there is a way to solve these issues, for 
devs with that sort of knowledge and meet gentoo standards?

BGO-510912 (Apache-Mesos)   and BGO-523412 (Apache-Spark)


Thanks,
James