Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: important fstab update

[Michał Górny]

On Thu, 27 Oct 2016 07:13:48 -0400
Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 7:01 AM, Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@g.o> wrote:
> > On 2016.10.25 22:52, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> >>
> >> Personally I'd rather see us go the other way, ensure udev settles
> >> before localmount runs, and maybe ewarn if /dev/disk/by-* is in fstab
> >> or something.  Leave the migration away from these paths to general
> >> education of system setup, since they technically are valid, just not
> >> ideal.
> >>
> >>
> > +1
> >
> > Add udev-settle now.
> > Have an advisory news item that says why its been done and what
> > users can do if they don't like it or don't need it, and what will happen
> > long term.
>
>
> That seems sensible.
>
> > At the same time, depreciate the use of udev symlinks in fstab.
> >
> > Some time later, remove udev-settle and have another news item.
> > By now, users will have reacted to the first news item or sympathy
> > can be minimal.
>
> Why ever remove udev-settle, or deprecate the udev symlinks?  Is there
> something wrong with them, other than a bug when you try to mount
> things before they are created?
>
> If anything the udev syntax seems a lot more "standard" since it
> follows the normal device, mountpoint, etc syntax in fstab.
>
> Nothing would prevent users from using the other syntax and removing
> the settle step if they desire.  It just seems odd to not support a
> fairly standard syntax in OpenRC, unless this is part of some larger
> trend where udev itself is moving away from it, etc.

The reliance on udev-settle doesn't follow the long-term Gentoo policy
of being blazing impossibly fast.

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny
<http://dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/>