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On Wednesday 23 July 2003 07:48, KH c wrote: |
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> Hello all Gentoo developer, |
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> I get an (maybe dumb) idea: Gentoo is VERY OPTIMIZE |
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> for your hardware because you have to compile one |
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> program by another, and manual fix any problem happen. |
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> It is a turn off for Linux newbie even though s/he has |
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> a lot of patience. Is there a way to comprise? |
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> Assuming the user has a lot time and no trouble |
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> happen inbetween. |
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> I would suggest how about writing an intelligent |
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> installer that will automatically check dependency, |
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> download it and install it like urpmi in Manadrake or |
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> apt-get in Debian so even new user can enjoy the |
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> benefit of optimization WITHOUT the hardwork? i.e. I |
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> want to install X, just tell the program and it will |
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> take care of the whole process for me. Is it possible? |
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> Or how about a pre-written scipt that will do the |
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> compile process for different type of pre-set usage |
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> like Desktop, Mutimedia, Networking, Internet? i.e. It |
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> is not a pre-installed package, it is a pre-set |
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> packager that will do the packaging right in front of |
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> the user's eye. Each user get the same package and |
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> script yet it is OPTIMIZE for their computer after |
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> they install it. What do you think about this idea? |
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> |
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Well, we are currently working on the Gentoo Reference Project which provides |
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prebuild binaries with sensible defaults. That would make it possible to get |
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up and running rather fast. Then a user can specify his optimisations and |
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build new packages with those optimizations. We also have a utility that |
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provides the recommended compilation flags for each architecture, and we do |
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not advise to deviate from them too much. It is indeed very possible to make |
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compilations fail with wrong useflags. (In some cases applications actually |
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compile correctly but function wrong, or unpredictable). |
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Given no overagressive use flags it should be possible after the preliminary |
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installation (from the installation documentation) to just say "emerge kde |
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gnome mozilla" and have them all automatically installed. This process should |
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run without errors and after some (well probably a lot depending on your |
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hardware) time it should finish telling you that kde gnome and mozilla were |
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merged. If this process does fail at some intermediary point, please report |
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it as it is a bug and should not happen. |
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Paul |
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Paul de Vrieze |
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Researcher |
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Mail: pauldv@××××××.nl |
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Homepage: http://www.cs.kun.nl/~pauldv |
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