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From: Alexis Ballier <aballier@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 00/21] gen_usr_ldscript: migrate away from a sep-/usr by default
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 19:10:19
Message-Id: 28ef45dc-2141-4847-ab0c-26b1a5566063@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 00/21] gen_usr_ldscript: migrate away from a sep-/usr by default by Mike Frysinger
1 On Thursday, March 31, 2016 8:19:52 PM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote:
2 > On 31 Mar 2016 19:00, Alexis Ballier wrote:
3 >> On Thursday, March 31, 2016 6:07:28 PM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote:
4 >>> On 31 Mar 2016 16:05, Alexis Ballier wrote: ...
5 >>
6 >> i dont think anybody expects you to post tree-wide conversion patches to
7 >> -dev ml :)
8 >>
9 >> but i also dont think it is a good idea to leave the toolchain-funcs
10 >> version around, and if you want to drop it, you'll have to
11 >> fill bugs to let
12 >> ppl know, which is probably more work than adding 8 chars to an inherit
13 >> line that can be automated
14 >
15 > sure -- backwards compat won't be dropped until we're confident everyone
16 > has migrated over
17
18
19 ... which introduces a mess to track what has been converted and what not
20 while it can be done once and for good
21
22 >>> ...
23 >> not sure if this was phrased as such, but I seem to recall a council
24 >> decision stating that separate /usr should be made easy to users unless
25 >> this causes serious issues; thus, no, I don't think that is
26 >> the behavior we
27 >> want :) ...
28 >
29 > pretty sure the decision was that it's not required to be supported.
30
31 lemme look it up for you then:
32 https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Council_decisions
33
34 systems with separate /usr should be supported. However, users shouldn't be
35 constrained from using software which doesn't support that. -- 04/2012
36 meeting
37
38 The council has voted in favour of a separate /usr being supported
39 (5 yes, 1 no vote).
40
41 > and
42 > regardless of that, i don't see the default behavior of being off as being
43 > contra "easy to use".
44
45 but you're right there, it doesn't make it hard to use, just not working
46 out of the box, which is already debatable; however, with eudev being the
47 default I don't think there is anything preventing it atm with a default
48 setup, but i might certainly stand corrected there

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