Gentoo Archives: gentoo-dev

From: Richard Freeman <rich@××××××××××××××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Latest Gentoo installcd lacks lsusb
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:32:46
Message-Id: 471287EB.8010909@thefreemanclan.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Latest Gentoo installcd lacks lsusb by Andrew Gaffney
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4 Andrew Gaffney wrote:
5 >>
6 >> If you think lsusb is important or not important for installcd, please
7 >> help explain why.
8 >
9 > Seriously, wtf is your problem? Why do you keep challenging the
10 > decisions made by release engineering, first on bugs and then on the MLs
11 > when you don't get your way? Chris is the head of Release Engineering,
12 > which means he gets to make the decisions relevant to the install media.
13 > He's been doing it a long time, and there have been very few people that
14 > have disagreed with what he does.
15
16 I actually tend to agree with Chris's decision in this case, but it
17 certainly shouldn't be frowned upon if a user wants to raise a question
18 like this to a broader forum. For all we know 75 users will post
19 stating that for whatever reason they found having lsusb available was
20 useful in their installs. Now, I consider that unlikely, but if for
21 whatever reason it turned out to be the case we'd all be better for
22 knowing about it.
23
24 The mailing list post was pretty matter-of-fact and wasn't posed as a
25 troll of any kind. An issue was pointed out, the pros and cons were
26 pointed out generally, and opinion was sought.
27
28 Sure, release engineering will end up making the final call, but they're
29 obviously going to want to make the install media the best it can be -
30 with the obvious compromise between size and usability. I tend to think
31 that they have made the right decision already, and I'm sure that
32 they'll make the right call if for whatever reason the mailing list
33 discussion brings up anything important that wasn't considered.
34
35 And if it does bother you that somebody posted this question on a
36 mailing list just ignore it - most threads like this die out with only
37 two responses. Few of us have paid anything for gentoo, so to some
38 degree we need to be happy with what we get, but I'm sure most devs are
39 happy to at least try to give the customers what they want when it
40 doesn't cost anything. In this case there is a cost, so just point it
41 out in a friendly way...
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