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From: Christian Faulhammer <opfer@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Help offered - Portage tree
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:28:14
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Re: Help offered - Portage tree by
1 Hi,
3 davecode@××××××××××.net:
4 > I've read Gentoo's new dev announcements about monkeys and paper
5 > weights. People with a couple of small open-source projects. The
6 > monkeys and paper weights get CVS rights. Then the chief architect of
7 > Sabayon is scotched over bugzilla output? Please. That smells like
8 > bad fish.
10 Sorry, but look up humour in a dictionary of your choice. The guy
11 with the paperweight has been a valuable contributor to the Alpha port
12 including preparing the releases for that architecture. If you had read
13 his announcement completely you would have seen what kind of service he
14 provided for the project...for years!
17 > When someone as expert as this offers help, take it and make him a
18 > fast lane. He is worth ten bugzillas. Like a scientist once told me
19 > - it would be inefficient for him to clean his office, they have
20 > janitors for that.
22 No, same rights for everybody. Even Daniel Robbins (founder of
23 Gentoo) took the quizees the normal way. when he returned.
25 > Bugzillas are mostly good for non-devs to report bugs. I know zero
26 > developers who first think to themselves, "ok, I need a project
27 > bugzilla...then I can begin writing code." That isn't how development
28 > works.
30 As long as somebody cares about the bugs, it works quite well...if
31 nobody responds to them, any system is useless.
33 > "So you don't have time to file bugs but you would have time to fix
34 > them" is rhetoric. The issue is ROI. Why file bugzillas that some
35 > "dev" authority figure may or may not fix in two years, when you can
36 > fix the code yourself?
38 Sometimes I do commits in other project's garden...because I need a
39 bug closed. I warn them one week at least before doing the actual
40 change so somebody can stop me.
42 > If you dislike his CVS mods you can always revert, take votes, etc.
43 > But I say +1 let him have at it.
45 Fine, you can help him take the quiz.
47 V-L
49 --
50 Christian Faulhammer, Gentoo Lisp project
51 <URL:>, #gentoo-lisp on FreeNode
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Help offered - Portage tree Fabio Erculiani <lxnay@××××××××××××.org>