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From: Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:25:36
Message-Id: 1119968559.13606.178.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project by Ioannis Aslanidis
1 On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 12:19 +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
2 > > I still don't see *WHY* you should be different from us. If you want to
3 > > manage your recruits then they can't be gentoo staff.
4 >
5 > One reason could be that we are _not_ going to be called developers but staff.
6
7 Like our infrastructure staff?
8
9 Hey, didn't you just read that lcars, who has been around *forever* just
10 took the developer quiz so he could get access to the portage tree to
11 maintain sendmail. Well, I mean, he's been around for so long,
12 shouldn't he have just been allowed to completely side-step the
13 recruitment process that is in place?
14
15 > > Arch teams have developed a new 'figure', the arch tester. Not official
16 > > gentoo staff but somehow involved with us; arch teams manage their own
17 > > arch tester recruitment process. If that's the situation you want then
18 > > they won't become gentoo staff.
19 >
20 > Didn't I say that was already agreed with devrel?
21
22 I don't think anyone has disagreed that you should be in complete
23 control over whom you recruit as forum-specific moderators. It is only
24 when they wish to "move up" to a global moderator or administrator
25 position that they should be required to complete the official
26 recruitment process.
27
28 > > > And some of us were already doing stuff for Gentoo much before the
29 > > > quizes became mandatory, so it would be fair that all of us that were
30 > > > mods/admins before that date would be treated *that* way.
31 > >
32 > > Still, you weren't gentoo staff. Helping out since then doesn't make you
33 > > any different from the recruitment point of view (IMHO).
34 >
35 > Then the problem is we should have been done in that moment, so this
36 > is one more reason in favor of taking old mods to staff with no quiz
37 > stright away.
38
39 Again I have to ask. Are you even reading what people are commenting or
40 are you just spouting this same thing over and over.
41
42 You never were staff. You never asked to be. The developers that were
43 here before the quiz was established were already developers. You had
44 no "official" status. You cannot make a comparison without completely
45 throwing logic out the window.
46
47 --
48 Chris Gianelloni
49 Release Engineering - Strategic Lead/QA Manager
50 Games - Developer
51 Gentoo Linux

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