Gentoo Archives: gentoo-dev

From: Yannick Koehler <yannick.koehler@××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] /etc/init.d the real question!?
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 17:33:42
Message-Id: 3C8D3EC3.6030306@colubris.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] /etc/init.d the real question!? by Corvus Corax
1 Corvus Corax wrote:
2 > This topic goes quite long now doesnt it?
3 >
4 > Is it realle the question if /etc/init.d should be masked or not?
5 >
6 > Since every user is able to change this himself i`d like to say the real
7 > question is:
8 > What initial knowledge requirements should a newbee GENTOO USER have?
9 >
10 > Here comes a list, what i think a gentoo user needs to know till now to
11 > install a new gentoo onto his mashine:
12 >
13 > general LINUX knowledge -- the user should have used Linux before
14 > knowledge of bash -- you need it to install at least base-layout
15 > knowledge of nano / vi -- without knowing how to use an editor he is lost <g>
16 > knowledge how to setup
17 > either LAN
18 > or PPPd / dialin
19 > or ADSL /cable / ... -- without the user wont get a single ebuild
20 > installed
21 > knowledge how to configure
22 > the kernel -- imagine one who has never made the
23 > make menuconfig && make dep && make clean && make bzImage &&
24 > make modules && make modules_install &&
25 > cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot ... --->completely LOST!
26 > knowledge how to setup
27 > his preferred boot-loader -- which does he want? grub? lilo?, ... but you
28 > need one.
29 >
30 > knowledge how to compile -- should know about the usual ./configure &&
31 > make && make install series or not?
32 >
33 > knowledge of the portage sys -- a user who trys to install gentoo without
34 > having read the docs on gentoo.org? ooops <g>
35 >
36 > to be continued...
37 > Hmmm don't you think a user who got thus far doesnt know how the init process
38 > works, and what he has to do with the ._cfg00?_* files ? especially since
39 > emerge prompts for them after every installed ebuild?
40 >
41 >
42 > my opinion, as an gentoo user --- Corvus V Corax
43 > _______________________________________________
44 > gentoo-dev mailing list
45 > gentoo-dev@g.o
46 > http://lists.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev
47 >
48
49 Like I mentionned before, that's probably what gentoo require today.
50 Once you have a distro on CD where it can process with some of those
51 steps automatically you'll still get new users just because of the
52 portage way of doing things.
53
54 And with the documentation available on the web site, someone may get to
55 install gentoo without that much knowledge.
56
57 Yannick Koehler