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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Fixing elasticsearch maintainer
Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 13:11:05
Message-Id: 1495199447.15270.9.camel@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Fixing elasticsearch maintainer by Patrick Lauer
1 On Wed, 2017-05-17 at 18:38 +0200, Patrick Lauer wrote:
2 > Bonus mention:
3 > bbdc5412061adf598ed935697441a7d6b05f7614
4 > app-admin/logstash-bin: drop old
5 >
6 > Signed-off-by: Andrew Savchenko <bircoph@g.o>
7 >
8 > That removed the versions I was using, so I better maintain the versions
9 > I use in an overlay. Well ok then.
10 >
11
12 I'm sorry that the situation turned out badly for you. However, I would
13 like to point out that problems like this are rarely unilateral,
14 and usually involve issues on both ends.
15
16 I'd like to ask you a very simple question: what did you do to ensure
17 that the versions you are using are not accidentally removed?
18
19 I could have a few ideas, such as:
20
21 a. slotting the package to indicate that multiple versions might be
22 meaningful,
23
24 b. opening a bug requesting the old version to be kept,
25
26 c. leaving a comment in the ebuild (unlikely to help but still),
27
28 d. just mailing proxy-maint@ to let us know of the issue.
29
30 However, as far as I'm aware none of this happened. Note that I might
31 have missed the mail, or it might have been sent before I joined --
32 correct me if that is the case.
33
34 As Alec pointed out, it is a normal procedure in Gentoo to remove old
35 versions of software if there is no explicit indication that they need
36 to be kept. Therefore, I don't see anything wrong with the proxied
37 maintainer wishing to clean the old versions up and/or not requesting
38 your explicit permission for that. If you needed the old versions, you
39 should have made that clear.
40
41 I should also point out that the steps you've taken (and listed in this
42 mail) are not really relevant. They make you look like a sloppy
43 maintainer, and a bad Gentoo developer at the best -- and I doubt anyone
44 would connect removing proxy-maint team with a necessity of keeping
45 an old version.
46
47 --
48 Best regards,
49 Michał Górny

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