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From: Roy Marples <uberlord@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for May
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 10:42:58
Message-Id: 20070503113933.13686018@uberlaptop.development.ltl
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for May by "José Luis Rivero (yoswink)"
1 On Thu, 03 May 2007 12:15:45 +0200
2 "José Luis Rivero (yoswink)" <yoswink@g.o> wrote:
3 > Ehm, IMHO call it discriminate is a big hard. Are the gnome-2.18 or
4 > beryl users discriminated or they should be using something different
5 > to Gentoo? They only thing people have to do is use some ~arch branch
6 > packages, which isn't too difficult (in Gentoo).
7
8 No no no.
9 In my example we can only use one version of the game with the upstream
10 servers. There is only 1 upstream server, we have to use it.
11
12 So if it supports 6 archs and some of the arch teams take a few months
13 to mark it stable then the chances are it will be out of date anyway
14 and the "slacker arches" will never have a stable keyword.
15
16 So remove the onus on slacker arches making games stable I just don't
17 bother with the stable keyword for network games ever.
18
19 Gnome-2.18 on the other hand is a desktop product with zero upstream
20 interaction except with programs that have clearly defined protocols
21 and are normally backwards compatible. Like say HTTP
22
23 >
24 > This is how I see it:
25 >
26 > Problem with keywording straight to stable is that arch teams are
27 > very zealous about our stable branch. We put a lot of time trying
28 > things to not fail in stable, and if an app is broken, we prefer to
29 > not force the users to compile and install another broken (or unknown
30 > to be broken) version and work to fix the current stable (patches or
31 > bumping) together with the maintainer.
32
33 Right, but if stable client version != stable usptream server version
34 it cannot be used anyway, making the stable keyword here a bit of a
35 joke.
36
37 > But if you send things, that you can't try, to stable, the qa baby
38 > jesus will cry if it fails, because nobody has taken care of even
39 > compile it in the arch :)
40
41 Well, that's up to the arch teams I guess. Lots of things fail randomly
42 on g/fbsd because of a patch added to fix a linux bug. Maybe when we
43 g/fbsd gets a stable branch then we'll come down on the linux
44 developers like a ton of bricks :)
45
46 Thanks
47
48 Roy
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