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From: Sergey Popov <pinkbyte@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Why masks are being used for security issues instead of GLSA?
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 10:23:13
Message-Id: 542A8485.7060102@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Why masks are being used for security issues instead of GLSA? by Pacho Ramos
1 30.09.2014 14:11, Pacho Ramos пишет:
2 > El mar, 30-09-2014 a las 13:47 +0400, Sergey Popov escribió:
3 > [...]
4 >> I think you are get some things wrong - they are masked not instead of
5 >> GLSA, but prior to it.
6 >>
7 >> Let me explain the process on behalf on my security hat - before
8 >> releasing GLSA we should rid of all vulnerable versions in tree.
9 >> However, sometimes it leads to problems with migration on new
10 >> versions(usually happens with complex packages, for example OpenLDAP).
11 >> So, to mark that some versions are really not for ordinary users we can
12 >> security mask them. After that - we do not need to remove them, just
13 >> keep an eye that they would not be unmasked. The next step for these
14 >> versions is only to be removed from tree, after all issues with
15 >> dependant packages will be fixed.
16 >>
17 >> And then - we can proceed with making GLSA. Masking of package does not
18 >> replace making GLSA and never was!
19 >>
20 >> If you are claim that GLSA making process is too slow, well... We have
21 >> vast amount of security issues and not many people who handles them, so
22 >> - here we are...
23 >>
24 >> As for ppp, i masked it, because there are some packages in tree that
25 >> hardcodes usage for specific versions of ppp and they should be patched
26 >> BEFORE vulnerable versions of ppp will leave tree.
27 >>
28 >> I want to notice, that such practice was established a long time ago,
29 >> from the very beginning of Gentoo Security team and i do not think that
30 >> we should change something in it
31 >>
32 >
33 > Only a question: why GLSAs aren't released until the vulnerable version
34 > is not dropped? Wouldn't be better for people relying on GLSAs to get
35 > the glsa as soon as they can install the fixed version (I mean, when
36 > that version is stabilized)?
37 >
38 > Thanks for the info :)
39 >
40 >
41
42 That's more like established practice then policy, cause after
43 publishing glsa we should auto-close all relevant security bugs. And we
44 can not do this if vulnerable versions are still in tree. So it's better
45 to mask them to speed up things with publishing GLSA, maintainers can
46 drop old versions of their later.
47
48 --
49 Best regards, Sergey Popov
50 Gentoo developer
51 Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead
52 Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead

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