Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: dev-util/wxglade/files/, dev-util/wxglade/

[Mart Raudsepp]

Ühel kenal päeval, E, 20.02.2017 kell 13:50, kirjutas Mike Gilbert:
> On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Mart Raudsepp <leio@g.o>
> wrote:
> > Ühel kenal päeval, L, 18.02.2017 kell 19:47, kirjutas Michał Górny:
> > > commit:     7207a292b2591dde5cbd336470bed3c11617a8e1
> > > Commit:     Michał Górny <mgorny <AT> gentoo <DOT> org>
> > > CommitDate: Sat Feb 18 19:47:25 2017 +0000
> > > URL:        https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=
> > > 7207
> > > a292
> > >
> > > dev-util/wxglade: python-single-r1, EAPI=6
> >
> > While I appreciate work done to do this conversion finally, what
> > was
> > the reason to bypass the maintainers after being explicitly told on
> > IRC
> > to not do so?
> > Since when have we entered a free-for-all state of maintenance in
> > Gentoo?
> > I would like to know the state of affairs, so I know for future
> > reference what can I expect and what I can do to packages that I do
> > not
> > explicitly maintain either.
> >
> > And yes, I am aware there was a pending bump request for a couple
> > years. I'm still dealing with backlog after getting back to tree
> > maintenance.
> >
> > Mart Raudsepp,
> > thoroughly confused about current maintenance policies
> >
>
> At some point, if the maintainer isn't doing his job, he gets
> bypassed. Especially when dealing with a conversion like
> python.eclass
> where few people know or care how it works. If we waited for
> individual maintainers it will never get done.
>
> Unless you have some reason to slow him down, please get out of his
> way and let him work.

I am talking about the general attitude and approach as well.

But if we want to be stuck in this concrete case then the tracker bug
for eclass removal and conversion was filed less than 3 hours prior to
maintainer bypassing commit. The blocker to wxglade was marked also
less than 3 hours prior to maintainer bypassing commit, and the commit
was pushed at the same time as talking about how this and that thing is
crap and other demotivational speech with the actual maintainer around
and active, saying to contribute a patch to review and push in together
with other changes (like that version bump).
This is very demotivational, and in fact I ended up doing no gentoo
work afterwards over the weekend, primarily because of all this nasty
experience.

Have respect towards others and their wishes and their maintenance and
don't run over other people and maintainers. Do not run over
maintainers after a 3 hour period of bug filing (or rather marking a
wrong bug as a blocker to the eclass removal, receiving instant replies
to that, so clearly an "inactive" maintainer, and then still ignoring
everything and committing and pushing regardless). You are not special.


Mart