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From: Joshua Jackson <tsunam@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: Gentoo Seeds
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 19:55:54
Message-Id: 45119BED.5050908@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: Gentoo Seeds by Donnie Berkholz
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4 Donnie Berkholz wrote:
5 > Joshua Jackson wrote:
6 >> However, as
7 >> Chris stated loudly, that this is something that falls directly in
8 >> line with Release Engineerings goal. Its not a top level project that
9 >> creates something entirely new. Its a extension of the release of
10 >> images that allow you to install a system.
11 >
12 > Sure, neither is releng creating something entirely new. They're
13 > deriving tarballs and CDs using ebuilds to build packages, so perhaps it
14 > should be a subproject of the base project. You can make the "not
15 > entirely new" argument for literally anything. Oh, and ebuilds wouldn't
16 > work without a package manager, so perhaps all of this should fall under
17 > the Portage project. But Portage wouldn't exist without people to work
18 > on it, so maybe Devrel should be in charge of everything.
19 >
20 >> Thus in my opinion it being a top level project is to use what someone
21 >> else said is ludicrous.
22 >> Treecleaners is another newer project that has
23 >> spawned and its a subproject of the QA team. Why can't the seeds group
24 >> be a part of the Releng group. The entire point of the teams is to
25 >> assist each other for a combined benefit. Being a top level project,
26 >> you are in essence saying that we want to do this on our own without
27 >> the help of a group that has been doing a less focused version of what
28 >> you are aiming to provide.
29 >
30 > What I am getting from this is that you do not think people can
31 > collaborate if they're not part of the same project. Being a project
32 > just says that a group of developers want to work toward a certain goal.
33 >
34 > I encourage everyone to read over
35 > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0039.html and look at exactly
36 > what a project is.
37 >
38 > Thanks,
39 > Donnie
40 >
41 Oh lovely gross generalization time to use to prove points wrong
42 because there isn't any real argument against them *nods* I'm glad
43 we've reached this point of the conversation so quickly. It'll mean
44 that someone will be calling someone else a member of a certain
45 organization that kills all conversations. This is progressing nicely.
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47 I'm not going to be bothered to reply to the latter as it apparently
48 went spacey...
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