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From: Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Stability of /sys api
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 23:52:49
Message-Id: 20120515235103.GA2254@waltdnes.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Stability of /sys api by Stelian Ionescu
1 On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 12:44:59AM +0200, Stelian Ionescu wrote
2 > On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 18:38 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
3 > > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:26:03AM -0700, Greg KH wrote
4 > > > What specifically is your objection to udev today? Is it doing things
5 > > > you don't like? Too big? Something else?
6 > >
7 > > Today, it requires an initramfs if /usr is not physically on /. That
8 > > is due in large part to the fact that it has been rolled into the
9 > > systemd tarball, and inherited some of systemd's code and limitations,
10 > > despite the fact that udev is still a separate binary.
11 >
12 > This is absolutely and definitely false. Where did you hear such
13 > nonsense ?
14
15 1) Did you sleep through the /usr and initramfs flamewars?
16 http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken
17
18 2) The udev sources have merged into the systemd tarball. See...
19 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.hotplug.devel/17392 And note
20 the date is April 3rd, not April 1st. If they were really as worried
21 about compatability as they claim, you wouldn't need to use initramfs
22 for udev with a separate /usr.
23
24 --
25 Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org>

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Stability of /sys api William Hubbs <williamh@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] Stability of /sys api Arun Raghavan <ford_prefect@g.o>