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From: Alec Warner <antarus@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: RFC: auto-detection of unpack dependencies
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 03:34:01
Message-Id: b41005390807152033r7c81adc2s2f063643e7dd242f@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: RFC: auto-detection of unpack dependencies by "Tiziano Müller"
1 On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Tiziano Müller <dev-zero@g.o> wrote:
2 > Patrick Börjesson wrote:
3 >
4 >> On 2008-07-15 21:40, Tiziano Müller uttered these thoughts:
5 >>> Marius Mauch wrote:
6 >>>
7 >>> > As a result of Cardoes earlier mail we talked a bit about possible
8 >>> > solutions in #gento-portage, and I suggested to let portage
9 >>> > automatically inject the deps based on SRC_URI pattern matching.
10 >>> > A mapping of extensions and their unpack deps would be kept in the tree
11 >>> > (e.g. mapping '.tar.bz2' to '( app-arch/tar app-arch/bzip2 )'
12 >> [snip]
13 >>> > So, is this something ebuild maintainers would like in general, or does
14 >>> > such a feature cause you nightmares?
15 >>>
16 >>> Yes. I think that's something which should be done manually.
17 >>
18 >> Indeed, the correct solution would be to state the deps manually in each
19 >> ebuild that requires the dep. But in this case it would mean adjusting
20 >> the DEPEND string of pretty much the entire tree. Until such measures
21 >> are stated required, this would be a good middle ground, no?
22 > no. How about just introducing the new deps on their next version or
23 > revision bump? (I assume that more than half of the packages would be fixed
24 > within the next half year and that's more than fast enough).
25
26 Why would you do a bunch of manual work when you can script it easily
27 with few false positives?
28 Doubly so when false positives are relatively cheap; adding an extra
29 dep on a package you probably
30 already have installed won't hurt much and those it does hurt can file
31 bugs for the RESTRICT and/or
32 explicitly state the dep.
33
34 We could alternatively just use this automatic system to automatically
35 modify DEPEND in the majority of ebuilds
36 and work the bugs out that way.
37
38 I think doing this entirely manually is just a waste of your time though ;)
39
40 -Alec
41
42
43 >
44 >>
45 >> The same thing would apply to gcc if all "real" depends were to be
46 >> required in all ebuilds, but that would pretty much have to be manually
47 >> stated since the PM wouldn't be able to judge that by automatic
48 >> measures. This, on the other hand, can (at least partially) be handled
49 >> automatically for the ebuild-devs on the PM side of things.
50 > That's a different thing:
51 > A dependency on gcc just ensures that gcc is installed not that it is
52 > actually used to build a package.
53 > And for such a dependency we'd need new ways to express deps since gcc is
54 > only needed when building packages not when it gets installed from a
55 > binpkg.
56 > But this is not an argument for an automagic dep.
57 >
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