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From: Alec Warner <warnera6@×××××××.edu>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] first council meeting
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 14:08:55
Message-Id: 432D743C.7090103@egr.msu.edu
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] first council meeting by Wernfried Haas
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4 Wernfried Haas wrote:
5 > On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 01:32:32PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
6 >
7 >>Uhm. That's current policy and has been current policy for several
8 >>years. No GLEP needed.
9 >
10 >
11 > If that's currenty policy, why does the handbook say something quite
12 > different then? Does it need to be fixed?
13 >
14 > If so, i truly don't understand what ~arch should be about in the
15 > first place - what use is a ~arch system for testing if everything in
16 > there just works and stuff to be tested is p.masked?
17 >
18 > cheers,
19 > Wernfried
20 >
21
22 The point being that ~arch is generally for EBUILD testing, not package
23 testing. This is bad because some PACKAGES need lots of testing but
24 don't get it because they are in p.mask ( because the PACKAGE is not
25 stable ). Some people have begun putting unstable PACKAGES in ~arch,
26 instead of in p.mask because p.mask does not get enough testing done, so
27 things rot in p.mask forever. For larger packages ( apache, mysql,
28 gnome ) this system works fine because upstream does a lot of testing.
29
30 Since users shy away from p.mask ( things in there can have security
31 issues for example ) a new PACKAGE testing area was proposed. Packages
32 in this area would need PACKAGE testing. Users would know that packages
33 with security issues would not be in this new testing area.
34
35 Personally I like Ciaran's wording of the levels.
36
37 ~arch - Canidate for Stable on Arch
38 arch - Stable on Arch
39
40 You wouldn't suggest a program you hadn't tested as a Canidate for
41 Stable. That would be utterly retarded. You've tested it
42 thoroughly(sp?) and it seems to work well for you. You have had other
43 developers in your herd test it and they also encounter no problems.
44 Thus it enters ~arch because you cannot find anything wrong with the
45 package and you think it's stable. If the users find a huge bug you can
46 regress the ~arch back to the testing layer ( be it p.mask or something
47 new ) and fix the bug. If no one files a bug for 30 days have an AT
48 test it and then mark it stable.
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