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Paweł Hajdan, Jr. posted on Wed, 09 Sep 2015 09:20:13 +0200 as excerpted: |
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> A user asked for optional gtk3 support in www-client/chromium: |
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> <https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=559378> |
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Talking about browsers and gtk3, I read that binary distros are starting |
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to ship firefox built against gtk3, now. |
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And with that happened, they'll likely be eager to deprecate gtk2, as I |
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think firefox was the big hold-out making that impractical. |
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Which means gentoo will likely eventually follow, since gtk2 viability |
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will be dropping at that point. |
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So what's the gentoo gtk3 firefox status, and when it does go gtk3, how |
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long can users expect their other gtk2 apps to continue to be supported, |
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if upstream doesn't update to gtk3, due to inactivity or whatever reason? |
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While I'm at it, what about claws-mail, which I use but which is still |
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gtk2 based? |
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And what about pan (nntp client), which I've been long-term involved with |
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upstream on the mailing lists as a "guru user" and kept the list lights |
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on when there was effectively no upstream dev, so I happen to know its |
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gtk3 status fairly well -- the gtk3 port has long been done and some |
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distros even ship it, but we continue to recommend gtk2 because we |
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continue to get reports of various gtk3-based pan bugs that "magically" |
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disappear when people rebuild with gtk2, that have never been traced much |
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further than that, because the recommendation continues to be gtk2 (yes, |
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circular reasoning, but...). |
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And for as long as I've been running pan, nearing a decade and a half |
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now, development has always been sporadic, as I said even lacking an |
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upstream dev at all, for a few years. A couple years ago Heinrich |
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Mueller adopted it and did a lot of work, adding some features that had |
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been on the request list for years, but while he (and Petr Kovar, the |
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Gnome rep and website maintainer, but a l10n guy not a dev) still do |
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patches, he hasn't done much more than that for a couple years. So |
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realistically, upstream isn't going to be very active in getting those |
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gtk3 bugs traced and patched, tho patches will probably be applied if |
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distro maintainers develop and submit them. |
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For the desktop I tend to be more a kde guy (tho I'm not sure I will |
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still be with the frameworks5/plasma5 upgrade...), but on these apps, and |
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particularly on pan, since I /am/ involved with upstream there, I'm |
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concerned about gtk, but am not close enough to the gentoo/gtk team to |
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know the status there, thus the questions. |
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Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. |
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"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- |
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and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman |