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On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 10:21 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: |
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> On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 03:30:10 +0100 Christel Dahlskjaer |
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> <christel@g.o> wrote: |
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> | What do you believe could make Gentoo more attractive |
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> | to new users and to current users? |
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> Something that's often missed in these discussions... The only serious |
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> interaction between Gentoo and nearly all of our end users is through |
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> the tree, package manager and related tools and our documentation. Most |
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> of our users don't regularly read mailing lists, use IRC or the forums, |
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> so the only thing they really see is what happens when they emerge |
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> --sync and install things. |
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Nod, I may have dreamt this, but I believe I saw mention of some sort of |
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implemented news reader-esque idea. Is that something you know if people |
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have given any thought? Discussed? Is it an idea that could be worth |
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looking at again? |
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> I'm not entirely sure how bugzilla fits into all this. I suspect that |
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> it's nowhere near as widely used by end users as it could be. |
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As for using bugzilla for information, I am not entire sure. As for the |
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sort of stuff that has been brought up bugzilla wise are things like |
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'Better how-to's" to ensure it's easier for users to write good bug |
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reports and less time demanding for devs to respond to them (This is |
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already being worked on by cwp et al) |
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Other ideas are things such as introducing bugzillas voting system. |
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> Three things I can think of that can be drawn from this: |
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> * GLEP 42 |
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Ding! The 'news reader esque' idea I thought I had dreamt may very well |
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have been just that, I read through all the GLEPs the other day, and I |
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suspect that may be where I got it from. Thank you. |
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> * All the pretty pink unicorns in the world aren't going to make a |
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> scrap of difference if the tree keeps breaking. |
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Ack, however much I love pretty pink unicorns (and pretty pink portage, |
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and pretty pink baselayout and most other things that are well, pretty |
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and pink) I agree with you there. |
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Personally, I like the idea of such things as higher standards, more |
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direction, code reviews, developing coding standards, document |
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functions, getting the proper comments in place in code (I'm quite |
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astonished by the dearth of comments and how it looks like it hasn't |
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been reviewd for quite some time in places). However, this may be better |
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off in a different discussion and not on a userrel thread. |
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> * If we're looking to increase the flow of end users -> super users -> |
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> developers, perhaps we should focus more upon improving development |
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> tools or development documentation. |
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Perhaps that is somewhere else we need to look. |
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