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From: Joshua Kinard <kumba@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 13:37:02
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem! by Zac Medico
1 On 03/14/2012 14:56, Zac Medico wrote:
3 > On 03/14/2012 11:36 AM, Maxim Kammerer wrote:
4 >> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 19:58, Matthew Summers
5 >> <quantumsummers@g.o> wrote:
6 >>> Why is an in-kernel initramfs so bad anyway? I am baffled. Its quite
7 >>> nice to have a minimal recovery env in case mounting fails, etc, etc,
8 >>> etc.
9 >>
10 >> There is nothing bad about initramfs. I think that you are misreading
11 >> the arguments above.
12 >
13 > Whatever the arguments may be, the whole discussion boils down to the
14 > fact that the only people who seem to have a "problem" are those that
15 > have a separate /usr partition and simultaneously refuse to use an
16 > initramfs.
19 I refuse to use an initramfs as this point in time because I haven't had to
20 use one in the past 10 years to get my Gentoo installs to boot. Right now,
21 all three active Gentoo installs that I have (x86_64, Vbox, MIPS) boot
22 *fine* with a separate /usr and no initramfs. That, in my opinion, is not
23 "broke", despite statements made to the contrary.
25 It only became "broke" when individuals not involved with Gentoo declared it
26 to be "broke", and then back it up with use-case scenarios that are really
27 only applicable to their distribution of choice.
29 I'm not saying that I'll continue to not use an initramfs, but I would like
30 for some Gentoo-specific reasoning to be offered as to why we have to follow
31 along with this change. Constantly referring to Fedora or Freedesktop
32 websites for their reasoning doesn't matter to me. I don't use Fedora nor
33 do I use X11 (at least the server. I tunnel 2-5 X11 apps over SSH, however).
35 --
36 Joshua Kinard
37 Gentoo/MIPS
38 kumba@g.o
39 4096R/D25D95E3 2011-03-28
41 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And
42 our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast, terrible in-between."
44 --Emperor Turhan, Centauri Republic


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