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From: Markos Chandras <hwoarang@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Formal Adopt a Package Program
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:14:53
Message-Id: 4E022229.4010001@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Formal Adopt a Package Program by Dane Smith
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4 On 22/06/2011 07:42 μμ, Dane Smith wrote:
5 > On 06/22/11 12:41, Markos Chandras wrote:
6 >> On 22/06/2011 07:30 ¼¼, Dane Smith wrote:
7 >>> On 06/22/11 12:18, Markos Chandras wrote:
8 >>>> On 22/06/2011 06:47 ¼¼, Christoph Mende wrote:
9 >>>>> On Mi, 2011-06-22 at 18:33 +0300, Markos Chandras wrote:
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13 >>>>>> On 22/06/2011 06:19 ??, Dane Smith wrote:
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15 >>>>>>> All,
16 >>>>>>> [..]
17 >>>>>>> Thanks!
18 >>>>>>>
19 >>>>>>> [1] http://dev.c1pher.net/index.php/2011/03/c1phers-adopt-a-package-program/
20 >>>>>>>
21 >>>>>> Hi Dane,
22 >>>>>>
23 >>>>>> I tried to do the same a year ago. Have a look here. It may help you
24 >>>>>> understand why that effort did not succeed
25 >>>>>>
26 >>>>>> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/dev/209204
27 >
28 >>>>> I see concerns about to-be-orphaned ebuilds where proxied maintainers
29 >>>>> only care about the ebuild for a short period. This would only be a
30 >>>>> problem with new ebuilds that will be added to the tree with a proxy
31 >>>>> maintainer. Instead of encouraging that, this project could have a goal
32 >>>>> to reduce m-n packages by assigning proxy maintainers.
33 >>>>> So no new packages, only old ones revived. Sounds reasonable to me.
34 >
35 >>>> This is what treecleaners try to do. Announce the upcoming removal of a
36 >>>> package so users can step up and maintain a package
37 >>>>> Although I didn't read the full thread, so please don't decapitate me if
38 >>>>> there were other concerns.
39 >
40 >>>> The purpose of Dane's proposal is to push ebuilds to portage tree that
41 >>>> you, as developer, have no interest in them at all, but users do. If the
42 >>>> proxy-maintainer disappears, you can always leave it portage tree as m-n
43 >>>> (assuming no open bugs) or ask treecleaners to remove it.
44 >
45 >
46 >>> Yes, that was one aim, but the primary aim is to reduce m-n packages.
47 >>> That's what I've been doing so far and I think is what would be the
48 >>> primary goal of this "new" project.
49 >
50 >> If this is the primary goal then you should try to merge it to
51 >> treeclears project instead of creating a new one. Treecleaners is pretty
52 >> much the only project that advertises the maintainer-needed packages so
53 >> I think it makes sense to extend this project to meet your needs. We
54 >> might need to rename the treecleaner project to reflect the extended
55 >> goals if needed
56 >
57 >> [1]http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/treecleaners/maintainer-needed.xml
58 >
59 > That's a good idea. It would help reduce the number of packages that
60 > have to get 'treecleaned' and it would have the added benefit that it
61 > might attract some much needed help to that project.
62 >
63 > Short version: I'm all for that.
64 >
65 In this case, I would advice you to start a discussion with
66 treecleaner@g.o so we can formalize the new project and come back
67 to this mailing list to discuss it with the rest of the devhood
68
69 - --
70 Regards,
71 Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2
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