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From: "Wulf C. Krueger" <wk@×××××××××××.de>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Please stop useless removals
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 14:08:49
Message-Id: 510BCC61.4000504@mailstation.de
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Please stop useless removals by Ian Stakenvicius
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4 Sorry for quoting a lot this time but it's important for understanding
5 the issue.
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7 On 01.02.2013 15:00, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
8 > On 01/02/13 08:56 AM, Wulf C. Krueger wrote:
9 >> On 01.02.2013 14:47, Rich Freeman wrote:
10 >>>> And how will you get to know about current or future
11 >>>> security issues if nobody (in Gentoo) cares about the
12 >>>> package?
13 >>> The same way that you know about security issues in Firefox or
14 >>> Chromium [...] Until somebody tells upstream about them you're
15 >>> going to be vulnerable.
16 >> Indeed. In contrast to many of the packages that were mentioned
17 >> in this thread, Firefox and Chromium have an active upstream,
18 >> though. What do you think will happen to projects with a dead
19 >> upstream? I think the answer is pretty simple: Nothing.
20 > Not really, no. A dead upstream means that there isn't an upstream
21 > to push a fix or release a new version. That's all. If security
22 > bugs occur then there's two options -- fix, or remove. So if the
23 > gentoo dev in question doesn't have time/ability/desire to fix,
24 > they or security remove it at that point. This isn't "nothing" to
25 > me; I must be missing something from your response?
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27 Yes, the topmost two lines in my quote:
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29 >>>> And how will you get to know about current or future
30 >>>> security issues if nobody (in Gentoo) cares about the
31 >>>> package?
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33 In the "dead upstream" case it's unlikely anyone is checking the
34 package for security issues in the first place. So neither the Gentoo
35 security people will get notice via the usual sources nor will any
36 upstream be informed.
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38 If there's a *known* bug, you're right. Case closed.
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40 If the package in question is just bit-rotting and nobody cares, you
41 most likely won't ever know about any security issues, though - until
42 something nasty happens. This is one of the problems with "dead
43 upstream" packages.
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45 Best regards, Wulf
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Please stop useless removals Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>