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From: "Petteri R├Ąty" <betelgeuse@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:36:47
Message-Id: 4BC09B08.4050208@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting 19 April 2010 by Denis Dupeyron
1 I was asked on #gentoo-council to respond to this post so I will. It
2 should also be noted council members usually speak as individual members
3 instead of for the council as a whole.
4
5 On 04/07/2010 06:00 PM, Denis Dupeyron wrote:
6 > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Ben de Groot <yngwin@g.o> wrote:
7 >> 1. reconsider metadata changepolicies proposal
8 >> ==============================================
9 > [...]
10 >> Can council please decide to honor
11 >> the wish from developers to implement this?
12 >
13 > The council will be glad to vote on a GLEP when ready. From GLEP 1,
14 > GLEPs are the "primary mechanisms for proposing significant new
15 > features, for collecting community input on an issue, and for
16 > documenting the design decisions". So use them.
17 >
18 > Also, you might want to check the log and summary of the last meeting
19 > to find out why the council may end up voting no to such a GLEP.
20 >
21
22 This doesn't exclude council members themselves from working on such a
23 GLEP if they think it's needed.
24
25 >> 2. website redesign
26 >> ===================
27 > [...]
28 >> Can council assure that a team will be assembled that can
29 >> effectively tackle this issue?
30 >
31 > You want the council to aim their collective gun at volunteer
32 > developers and force them to assemble in a team and work on something
33 > they might not want to work on?
34 >
35 > In other words, if you want it then work on it and make it happen.
36 > This is and has always been the Gentoo way.
37 >
38
39 Council can't assure it will happen, they can only encourage and work
40 towards such a goal.
41
42 >> 3. manpower and recruitment issues
43 >> ==================================
44 >>
45 >> Another recurring theme is the lack of manpower in certain areas, the
46 >> recruitment bottleneck and the quizzes. There are some initiatives but
47 >> more decisive leadership is needed. Can council decide to actively
48 >> pursue solutions for these structural problems?
49 >
50 > The only way to solve this is to address these issues where they are.
51 > That means joining the recruiters team and helping them with that.
52 > Another thing you might want to do is properly mentor recruits.
53 > Because one reason recruiting takes so long, and thus why there is a
54 > backlog, is (to put is simply) that mentors suck at mentoring.
55 >
56
57 As said Council is not needed. Recruiters as a project can handle
58 improving it just fine. I think I have pinged gentoo-core quite a few
59 times to try get new people in, would it make a difference if I pinged
60 as a council representative instead of as the Recruiting lead? Good news
61 is that I have two people in training nowadays.
62
63 Regards,
64 Petteri

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