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Hi, |
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Aron Griffis wrote: |
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> I think that attempting to take Gentoo in the "enterprise" direction |
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> is a mistake. I think that we are a hobbyist distribution. This |
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> doesn't mean that we should not strive to meet some of the enterprise |
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> goals. Those things can be important to hobbyists too. But I don't |
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> think we should be aiming for corporate America. |
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I don't think we're a good base for enterprise distributions with our |
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current tree either. |
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> I don't even understand why that goal appeals to people. Let other |
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> distros go there! I want Gentoo to run in people's homes, in student |
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> dorm rooms, etc. Places where people want a fun distribution that |
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> they can tailor and work on easily. |
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As you stated before, many of the enterprise goals may also fit the |
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"hobbyist"'s ones. I'm running Gentoo on my Pentium-MMX for server |
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pourposes and I really would benefit from a slower moving tree, for example. |
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> I like the idea of Gentoo on alternative arches and in embedded |
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> environments. Not because I want Sony to start using Gentoo on |
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> walkmans, but purely because the idea of running Linux on a PDA is |
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> cool. I'd like Gentoo to be a place where neat things are developed. |
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Ack. Additionally, I like the idea of running Gentoo on a server. ;) |
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> Also I find it amusing when people say that Gentoo exists for the |
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> users. I think that is wrong. Gentoo exists for the *developers*. |
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Depends on which side you are. When I was a user, I always had the |
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feeling that Gentoo exists for me, since it doesn't force me to |
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something I don't want, I can decide what my system looks like. |
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Now that I became a developer I see Gentoo as a great opportunity to |
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expand my knowlege and experience and to meet nice people, so it's |
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primarily for me. |
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> It's our playground, and it's the reason we use a live tree rather |
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> than switching to an actually sane approach. The users are cool |
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> because they point out bugs, help solve problems on bugzilla, suggest |
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> enhancements, provide patches, and notify us of package updates. |
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> Sometimes they become developers. But the truth is that Gentoo sees |
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> improvement and maintenance in the areas that appeal to the |
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> developers. And that is why Gentoo exists for the developers first, |
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> the users second. |
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I agree with this, but there are also situations where that isn't really |
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true. For example, I'm really interested in getting a true multilib |
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environment for AMD64, not because I want to run 32bit apps -- the few |
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ones I need already run smoothly -- but because it's an interesting and |
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ambitious project. For those who want to decide whether they want 32bit |
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or 64bit on a per-package-basis, multilib exists for them. To me, |
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multilib exists for me. |
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Although it's nearly everywhere the case, there doesn't have to be a |
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conflict of interests per-se. Gentoo has managed to not run into these |
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troubles, and that's why it's such a great distribution and community. |
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Greetings, |
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blubb |
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-- |
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Simon Stelling |
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Gentoo/AMD64 Operational Co-Lead |
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blubb@g.o |
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