Re: [gentoo-dev] Response to a "friendly note" about changing bug reports

[Tom Wijsman]

On Wed, 07 Aug 2013 14:41:14 +0200
hasufell <hasufell@g.o> wrote:

> I don't see any issue here. You are a bug wrangler and should have the
> authority to mess with anything in bugzilla.

As far as I know people in that project are no different from people out
of that project; you could start a similar project, or something totally
different but that doesn't give you extra authority or permissions. If
such thing has been written down for the bug wranglers project then I
would like to see; but until then, this is merely an unreferenced
contradiction and not an an actual counter argument. There is an issue.

> However, if you have scripts that rely on such specific form of bug
> title, then they are broken.

I wish summaries were collaboratively made that way; until then, we can
only fight for some consistency in places where we don't create noise
or have to explain our reasoning again and again and ...

> If you have issues to sort/read use a proper mail client with
> filtering options.

By those lists mail clients aren't necessarily meant; there is
https://bugs.gentoo.org/bots.html as well as the option to send whine
mails, which aren't necessarily as easy as to process as what you have
on mind. Especially not since no proper package atoms are used as well
as it isn't fool proof to decide whether a part of a sentence is a
package atom or not; when you're dealing with error output from compiler
and what not, you can't simply assume */* syntax to suffice.

> On 08/07/2013 11:04 AM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> > However, I'm also sick of getting bugmail because $RANDOM_DEV
> > thinks
> > * TRACKER is better than Tracker,
> > * every atom needs a "=" in front, and
> > * "Please stabilize XXX" should always be replaced by "XXX
> > stabilization".
> >
> > Remeber, I've been talking about effective whitespace noise.
> >
>
> And here too: How you set up your mail client is your own problem.

Yes and no, how does my mail client know the border line between an
useful and an useless change; while NLP goes some way, it isn't fool
proof and it will be a problem for everyone. It's not a good solution.

> Seems people are more interested in bikesheddings threads than those
> that point out problems no one has addressed in years.

Agreed, we could use and force some more constructiveness; until then,
we will need to be selective in what we read, respond and ignore.

-- 
With kind regards,

Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
Gentoo Developer

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