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From: oford <oford@×××.net>
To: Vadim <vadim_t@××××××××.es>
Cc: Gentoo-Dev mailinglist <gentoo-dev@g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Horrible package descriptions
Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 18:27:56
Message-Id: 1053627823.28791.29.camel@spider.hotmonkeyporn.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Horrible package descriptions by Vadim
1 You *could* chase the URL. That is the long description. :)
2
3 ./Owen
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5 On Thu, 2003-05-22 at 13:12, Vadim wrote:
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9 > I think that Gentoo needs some better way of describing packages. For example,
10 > on Debian there is a short and a long description, which will almost always
11 > explain what's the package for.
12 >
13 > Gentoo seems to have gems like this, though:
14 > * net-print/apsfilter
15 > Latest version available: 7.2.2
16 > Latest version installed: 7.2.2
17 > Size of downloaded files: 281 kB
18 > Homepage: http://www.apsfilter.org
19 > Description: Apsfilter Prints So Fine, It Leads To Extraordinary Results
20 >
21 > And this one is not as bad but still not good:
22 > * net-fs/samba
23 > Latest version available: 2.2.8a
24 > Latest version installed: 2.2.8a
25 > Size of downloaded files: 4,466 kB
26 > Homepage: http://www.samba.org
27 > Description: SAMBA is a suite of SMB and CIFS client/server programs for
28 > UNIX
29 >
30 >
31 > Okay, I realize that Gentoo isn't indended for newbies, but it's hard not to
32 > complain about that. I've been using computers for about 10 years, and Linux
33 > for maybe 3. And I have problems with both packages.
34 >
35 > I simply don't know what the heck does apsfilter do. Yeah, it prints, but
36 > what? Does it use CUPS or it's generic? If I install it, will I get more
37 > features in the KDE printing dialog, or it's invoked manually? If it "prints"
38 > maybe it's a printer driver? I have no idea. Note that even though the text
39 > above says I installed it, I did it just in case, and planning to figure out
40 > if it was useful or not later.
41 >
42 > About the same can be said for SAMBA. I know what it is, but I doubt I could
43 > find it if I was searching for it without knowing what it's called. Where are
44 > the references to the network (other than net-fs), Windows and file sharing?
45 > I'm pretty sure that there are quite a few Windows admins that have no idea
46 > of that the protocol is called SMB.
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48 >
49 > My suggestion is to make a policy that says that package descriptions have to
50 > be actually descriptive. The apsfilter description may be "cute", but it's
51 > completely unhelpful at describing its purpose, or even allowing it to be
52 > found easily with 'emerge -S'.
53 >
54 > I think it would also be a good idea to add longer descriptions, like those
55 > that .deb and .rpm packages have.
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