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> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:46:14 +0530 |
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> Anant Narayanan <anant@g.o> wrote: |
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>> On 29-Mar-07, at 2:26 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: |
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>> > On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 01:19:45 +0530 |
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>> > Anant Narayanan <anant@g.o> wrote: |
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>> >> I certainly don't think so. A lot of people *switch* to Gentoo |
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>> >> because of portage. Portage is a core part of our distro, and I |
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>> >> don't see it being replaced for a long time to come. |
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>> > Portage or the tree? Portage is just a way of using the tree, and |
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>> > it's not a very good one... |
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>> Both portage and the tree. I don't deny the fact that portage isn't |
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>> the best way of using the tree but it's a lot better than many of |
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>> the package managers (think other distros) out there. |
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> Better than many other package managers isn't exactly a glowing |
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> commendation. When you consider the disadvantages associated with a |
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> source-based distribution, Gentoo has to do a lot better than that in |
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> order to be worthwhile -- and it only takes one package manager to be |
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> better to make Gentoo not worth using. The goal should be "substantially |
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> better than any other package manager"... |
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Quoting our Philosophy Page: |
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'The goal of Gentoo is to strive to create near-ideal tools. Tools that |
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can accommodate the needs of many different users all with divergent |
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goals. Don't you love it when you find a tool that does exactly what you |
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want to do? Doesn't it feel great? Our mission is to give that sensation |
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to as many people as possible.' |
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I am unaware of any other goals currently present within Gentoo. I would |
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imagine people have goals, projects have goals; but gentoo has none other |
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that the one above. Now you can make the point that portage is not a |
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'near-ideal tool' and I'd agree for a large number of use cases; but at |
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least you'd be making a point against something thats actually a goal for |
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us instead of some made up goal like 'compete against Ubuntu/Fedora'. |
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That said; people are working on it. You have been hearing that for years |
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I know; most of that effort honestly became pkgcore (more or less). I'm |
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not about to say 'just give portage more time' because that is a stupid |
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statement to make. However I seriously doubt paludis or pkgcore is ready |
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to take over management for our users. For being a badly designed |
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application, portage has a large pair of shoes to fill. |
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-Alec |
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