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On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 14:43 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: |
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> On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 15:19:35 +0100 Christel Dahlskjaer |
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> <christel@g.o> wrote: |
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> | So, from a developer pov Ciaran; if we could come up with some way of |
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> | keeping up to date with what you guys do (without eating up any of |
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> | your time or getting in your way) and then keep the masses informed, |
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> | would that be more attractive? Obviously making sure that information |
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> | is kept to a not exactly bare minimum, but presented in such a way |
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> | that it doesn't in any way halt progress or potential change of |
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> | direction? |
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> If it's information on things that are fine being public but aren't |
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> simply because of lack of time to write them up, then that would be |
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> great. If it's things that're being kept quiet purposefully, however, |
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> then the last thing we want is to start telling people things. |
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Yes, I agree with that entirely. If things are being kept quiet for a |
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reason we will have no wish to attempt to push for these to be made |
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public before the decision to do so is reached by the development teams |
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in question. |
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> | > Hence why some of us don't announce non-trivial projects on public |
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> | > mailing lists, and instead keep any discussion on -core and sekrit |
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> | > IRC channels. That's how what's now known as eselect was developed, |
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> | > and it turned out far nicer than the XML-laden aborted gentoo-config |
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> | > project precisely because of the lack of end user 'input'. |
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> | In more of a informative 'these are the exciting things we're doing' |
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> | sort of way rather than a 'tell us why you disagree' sort of way |
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> | maybe. |
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> See, that doesn't work. There's this strange notion that because we're |
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> open source, users somehow have a right to a) see the code, b) make |
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> suggestions, c) demand new features, d) get support and e) annoy other |
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> developers or upstream when they break something that has a knock-on |
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> effect of breaking an unrelated package. |
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I was rather unclear, I think your previous passage had me rather spot |
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on for what I was wanting to do. |
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