Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI-2 - Let's get it started

[Luca Barbato]

Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:53:21 +0200
> Luca Barbato <lu_zero@g.o> wrote:
>>> A whole bunch of science packages have upstreams that say "If you're
>>> building from source, run 'make check' and if it fails don't carry
>>> on".
>> Their rationale behind that is that their code is severely broken,
>> using experimental features from their language of choice or, simply,
>> that they are paranoid and couldn't think better ways to annoy people?
>
> Their rationale being that compilers and users screw up, and that
> detecting a failure before deployment is important for people who care
> about what programs do.
>
> Simple example... Take people who use Roy's broken patches from bug
> 192403. If you build a program that uses C++ exception handling using
> such a compiler, it'll compile just fine and then do very weird things
> at runtime. Test suites catch this, and spare a lot of everyone's time.

You are supposed to test proposed patches for opened bugs before 
deploying them in any way.

Your "example", that btw is a quite low try to smear Roy, proves nothing.

> And saving your ass when you're using a broken compiler that generates
> broken code that would force you to reinstall a working compiler by
> hand when the package manager gets h0rked.

You (upstream) are supposed to test and early users are supposed to 
check their bleeding edge stuff is working if they care enough.
People using released programs that are in stable shouldn't have to do 
that. If your code doesn't survive a gcc release usually it's the code 
being wrong most of the times.

lu

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Luca Barbato
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Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC
http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

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