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From: Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@××××××.nl>
To: gentoo-dev@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Proper Gentoo Name (was License criteria for Gentoo)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 07:26:48
Message-Id: 200209251426.46912.pauldv@cs.kun.nl
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Proper Gentoo Name (was License criteria for Gentoo) by Greg Corcoran
1 On Wednesday 25 September 2002 13:58, Greg Corcoran wrote:
2 >
3 > Excellent points!
4 >
5 > This means that the Integrators (the Gentoo developers) are really
6 > building the OS from parts from different suppliers.
7 >
8 > These parts are put together as defined by the "system" profile. This is
9 > the base OS.
10 >
11 > QED the proper name is:
12 >
13 > Gentoo(TM) OS
14 >
15 > Greg
16 >
17
18 You are right about the integrators. In the car analogy one could say that
19 assembly, tuning and distribution are done by diffent organizations such as:
20 Redhat, Debian, UnitedLinux, Gentoo Inc.. They by fashion tend to call their
21 producs X linux, where X is their name, but indeed Gentoo OS is just as valid
22 as Gentoo Linux or Gentoo GNU/Linux. To confuse things the collection of
23 different linux-engine based products is also called linux. To be short there
24 is the operating system/car that is (possibly) misnomed Linux, and there is
25 the kernel/engine that is also called linux. The fact that this kind of cars
26 is called linux is a given fact that cannot be neglected (just like it is a
27 fact that portable cd players are called discmans while that actually only
28 refers to the portable cd players sold by Sony corporation).
29
30 Does RMS have a point when he says that the car shouldn't be called only be
31 its engine. Yes, I think he does. The car is largely defined too by parts
32 from the GNU family of parts. Many of them as essential as the engine. (Car's
33 without steering or engine are just as useless as cars without an engine) One
34 point that does speak in favor of calling the car after the engine is that
35 the gears, and steering weel can be changed or even have multiple
36 simultaneous ones. Then one can use that gearbox that suits best for the
37 application of the car. For uphill driving one might want to use the glibc
38 gearbox, while for speed driving one might want to use a gearbox of a
39 different brand. For engines this is a little bit different. The linux engine
40 is a so-called macro-kernel. This means that a large part of the chasis is
41 welded to the engine and they form an integral part (as opposed to e.g.
42 mach/hurd). This means only one engine is possible at the time. Also because
43 the chasis forms an integral part of the car the body is directly connected
44 to the chasis/engine (Xfree - linux kernel (the display drivers, esp. dri)).
45
46 Paul
47
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49 Paul de Vrieze
50 Junior Researcher
51 Mail: pauldv@××××××.nl
52 Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net

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