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From: Tom Wijsman <TomWij@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Cc: patrick@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] don't rely on dynamic deps
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 19:19:09
Message-Id: 20140726211856.24916abd@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] don't rely on dynamic deps by Patrick Lauer
1 On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 12:36:31 +0800
2 Patrick Lauer <patrick@g.o> wrote:
3
4 > On Wednesday 23 July 2014 01:06:15 Tom Wijsman wrote:
5 > > On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 08:10:20 +0300
6 > >
7 > > Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@g.o> wrote:
8 > > > On 22/07/14 04:05, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote:
9 > > > > And just for fun, since no one has mentioned it yet, dynamic
10 > > > > deps don't work at all on binpkgs since the Packages file
11 > > > > contains the deps (like vardb) and it doesn't get updated (just
12 > > > > like vardb).
13 > > >
14 > > > Known long standing pitfall. It's managable.
15 > >
16 > > It is one of the reasons I see binpkgs as breaking progress instead
17 > > of being part of the progress; it is manageable, but it could be
18 > > better.
19 >
20 > So you'd rather have people not using Gentoo because you can't
21 > agilely pivot your strategy mixin?
22
23 No, that's not what I've said; the paragraph you quote is based on an
24 observation, not a statement. In that observation; if people want a
25 mixin, they would go for a full mixin and not for a half broken mixin.
26
27 > Without binpkg support I'd feel the need to hack it up, just to get
28 > things fast enough. It's one of the features that haven't been made
29 > popular enough (eh, we could easily provide binpkg-updates for
30 > @system for all profiles and the most common arches (amd64, x86,
31 > maybe arm) - I've been running a cronjob doing that for x86+amd64 for
32 > about a year now)
33 >
34 > This perspective of "I don't need it, thus it shouldn't exist" is
35 > quite ... amusing.
36
37 +1; "It doesn't work, it shouldn't exist" is less amusing, more ideal
38 it should be "it doesn't work, let's fix or replace it" if we can...
39
40 --
41 With kind regards,
42
43 Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
44 Gentoo Developer
45
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