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From: Spider <spider@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] (U)DEPEND: thoughts?
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 05:05:07
Message-Id: 20040111060119.72df1daf.spider@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] (U)DEPEND: thoughts? by Ian Leitch
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2 On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 00:47:39 +0000
3 Ian Leitch <port001@g.o> wrote:
4
5 > Hi all,
6 >
7 > Disclaimer: This is one of those laying-in-bed-trying-to-get-to-sleep
8 > ideas.
9 >
10 > Some packages require a specific tool to unpack or aid in building of
11 > said package - rpm2targz is an example. For a lot of users rpm2targz
12 > will stay installed on their system unused for X amount of time. If a
13 > new DEPEND were available (say UDEPEND) users could opt to have those
14 > dependencies uninstalled via a FEATURES flag once the parent package
15 > had finished installing.
16 >
17 > Advantages:
18 > A little less bloat
19 > Potentialy one less tool a cracker could use (same idea as having too
20 > many wooden items in once location, which could be considered a fire
21 > risk)
22 >
23
24
25 > Disadvantages:
26 > One more thing for devs to remember? I can't think of any atm :)
27 >
28 > Not much of a killer feature, but atleast one user may find it
29 > handy...
30
31
32 Well, I'd like to see proper use of DEPEND vs. RDEPEND instead.
33 rpm2targz is a DEPEND but not an RDEPEND, and having a portage that
34 automatically suggests "DEPEND" and not RDEPEND packages as "unneeded"
35 could be a good thing.
36
37 Another idea is to have portage install all RDEPEND but not DEPEND
38 -after- the package, thereby locking down even more dependency bugs with
39 malcreated packages.
40
41 Separating UDEPEND only to get DEPEND more finegrained isn't a good
42 thing though. I really don't see the need for an extra thing just to
43 unpack but not to compile.
44
45
46 //Spider
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Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] (U)DEPEND: thoughts? Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] (U)DEPEND: thoughts? Ian Leitch <port001@g.o>