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On 05-10-2010 03:55, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: |
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> Il giorno lun, 04/10/2010 alle 11.19 -0400, Richard Freeman ha scritto: |
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>> That said, supporting this use case should not interfere with more |
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>> mainstream use of the distro. I like the USE flag proposal because it |
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>> lets us have our cake and eat it too. Those who don't need .la files |
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>> don't get them except where absolutely essential, and those who need |
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>> and |
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>> are willing to live with tons of them can have it their way. |
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> USE flags add complexity, and in real use cases there are near to no |
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> good reasons at all to keep .la files around. |
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Like Richard said "Gentoo is about choice... |
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By removing .la files, you are taking away that choice from the user. |
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For you they might be useless, for some user (or entire software house) |
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it can be its holly grail for library versioning and linking. I don't |
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really feel like forcing users to change their build setups just because |
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we think they are useless, do you? |
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- It is decisions like this one that *might* give us bad reputation. |
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Should we also start removing package-config files just because there |
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are better ways to detect if a certain package is installed? |
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> I don't want to sound like a douchebag, but can you (or anyone else |
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> supporting the USE flag notion) explain what .la files actually do? |
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You don't sound like a douchebag, just someone who wants to force stuff |
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into others. It happens all the time when we have strong feelings about |
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something or when we think we are totally correct. - But hey, guess |
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what? The world spins around sun after all. |
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> What I'm quite sure of is that about half the people who express their |
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> opinion regarding .la files have no idea what they are used for, they |
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> expect them to be some kind of magic problem-solving fairy dust. They |
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> are not. |
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Careful.. There is people that might take this as an "attack".. |
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> They are a legacy of older operating system and static linking notions; |
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> they are also not magical enough as they are only consumed back by |
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> libtool. And not all the packages out there use libtool to link the |
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> final application even if they were to use autotools. |
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