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From: "Aaron W. Swenson" <titanofold@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: Accidental spoofing -> Re: [gentoo-dev] We Are All wltjr On This Blessed Day
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2017 15:15:06
Message-Id: 20171205151455.GA28616@gengoff
In Reply to: Accidental spoofing -> Re: [gentoo-dev] We Are All wltjr On This Blessed Day by "William L. Thomson Jr."
1 On 2017-12-04 18:08, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
2 > On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 18:01:39 -0500
3 > "William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt-ml@××××××.com> wrote:
4 >
5 > > On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 14:43:15 -0800
6 > > Matt Turner <mattst88@g.o> wrote:
7 > > >
8 > > > Sorry. I think I was confusing a number of irritating things you've
9 > > > done: email spoofing,
10 > >
11 > > That was a complete accident due to a new version of Kmail that had
12 > > the from field editable by default. It was NOT intentional. Not the
13 > > 1st time. The 2nd time was for confirmation. I was in disbelieve such
14 > > abuse was even possible with @gentoo.org addresses. That was a
15 > > shocking discovery given I have administrated mail severs for quite
16 > > some time. In part why I use ASSP.
17 >
18 > I filed a bug with KDE on that but of course went WONTFIX. I think its
19 > horrible as it allows people to spoof, spam and do bad things...
20 >
21 > Make From field in the composer read only
22 > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373313
23 >
24 > Me personally I would never make software or change it to allow people
25 > to make such a mistake. Others felt differently. I stopped using
26 > Kmail2. I use Claws-mail now, but it also has editable from field.... :(
27 >
28 > Email clients should only allow email address that are in configured
29 > accounts. But that is my opinion. Others seem to feel differently. I
30 > cannot see any good reasons for such really.
31
32 One reason is to send from a nonexistent account to avoid getting
33 replies in the first place.
34
35 Like donotreply@×××××××.com for order updates, confirmation emails, and
36 so on. A person doesn’t actually exist behind the email, but emails have
37 to say they’re coming from somewhere. And, a properly setup SMTP server
38 will need an credentials to send those email. If donotreply doesn’t
39 exist, then the account setup will (probably) have an email address that
40 differs from the one that’s used to compose the email.
41
42 I use it myself when I need to inform our customers about a change. I
43 don’t want to field hundreds of email personally, so I change the from
44 address.
45
46 So, email clients most definitely should allow an individual to change
47 the from field. It’s a good thing. But, like any other tool, it can be
48 used improperly.

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