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From: Tom Wijsman <TomWij@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: Assigning keyword/stable bugs to arch teams (WAS: [gentoo-dev] dropping redundant stable keywords)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 07:41:39
Message-Id: 20140216084122.3fece52c@TOMWIJ-GENTOO
In Reply to: Re: Assigning keyword/stable bugs to arch teams (WAS: [gentoo-dev] dropping redundant stable keywords) by Rich Freeman
1 On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 10:18:32 -0500
2 Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote:
3
4 > Many objected to removal since old with minor issues is better than
5 > new that doesn't work at all on some archs, or so the argument goes.
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7 TL;DR: The opposite exists, I think we should draw a bar in the middle.
8
9 So goes the counter-argument; that an old version has some growing
10 issues (hidden security bugs get found, instability bugs are left
11 around, regressions are discovered, library dependencies get stabilized
12 but the package itself wasn't properly checked, ...) which are fixed in
13 a newer version, makes the new version better.
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15 This could then allow one to rewrite the mail you wrote from the
16 complete opposite viewpoint; my point here is that, without rehashing
17 the discussion we had on this somewhere else in this long thread, that
18 the situation isn't as black on white as one would love to.
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20 Making a claim "older [or newer] is most of the times better" requires a
21 quite a complex proof, but that shouldn't really be needed here. I agree
22 that your mention in another paragraph about "need to remove it"
23 definitely makes it more clear cut; although, that need can come
24 forward out of the presence of bugs and blocking stabilization requests.
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26 The question here might rather be "how old is old?"; because if we're
27 talking about an old version of a year ago, that has quite a different
28 notion than an old version of several years ago. We can draw the bar
29 somewhere in between and we'll be fine...
30
31 --
32 With kind regards,
33
34 Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
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