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From: Greg Turner <gmt@×××××××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] impending c++11 clusterfuck?
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 10:17:18
Message-Id: CA+VB3NR4hpwv11qJZbMRrbgmtj+44VLPF_QgqHnfFtyCdANR4A@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] impending c++11 clusterfuck? by "Anthony G. Basile"
1 On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 12:07 AM, Anthony G. Basile <blueness@g.o> wrote:
2 > If we record enough information at build time (eg. gcc version or
3 > libcxx/clang) then we can build tools that intelligently predict if
4 > there's an abi incompatibility.
5
6 Yes, exactly the type of thing I'm thinking of. As you go on to note,
7
8 > Unfortunately gcc doesn't bump soname
9 > and/or version-info when it changes c++11 abi.
10
11 So, maybe kludge #1 we require is some kind of made-up section header
12 injected into object files... let's say, hypothetically, a tuple from
13 the cartesian cross-product of something vaguely like:
14
15 <
16 compiler={gcc34,gcc47,gcc49,gcc52,clang}
17 arch={$(< profiles/arch.list)} or maybe {(gnu target triplets)}
18 abi={c++03,c++11,gnu++11,plain-ol'-c}
19 >
20
21 i.e.: gcc52-amd64-gnu++11. Probably the arch is redundant -- hell,
22 maybe the compiler too -- and could be dropped... but you get the
23 idea.
24
25 So then, some agent digs this out from executables, and, like you say,
26 caches it in the vdb somewhere.
27
28 Meanwhile, suppose there's a global eselect c++abi setting. Once it's
29 changed, we could just zip through the vdb and, say, "maybe some of
30 these are false positives, but, to be safe, here's a nag to rebuild
31 these so-and-so packages, which seem to have been built against some
32 c++ abi other than the current one."
33
34 No depgraph required, easy to implement magically-fix-it.sh. Might
35 spin its wheels a bit but how often would you change this setting?
36 Almost never...
37
38 Well just thinking out loud, I probably have horrible thinkos above,
39 but ya gotta start somewhere...
40
41 -gmt
42
43 Greg Turner
44 gmt@×××××××.net

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