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From: Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up
Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 16:47:22
Message-Id: 529F5C6C.7060704@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up by William Hubbs
1 On 03/12/13 23:11, William Hubbs wrote:
2 > On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 09:32:10PM +0400, Alexander V Vershilov wrote:
3 >> On Dec 3, 2013 1:24 AM, "Ian Stakenvicius" <axs@g.o> wrote:
4 >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
5 >>> Hash: SHA256
6 >>>
7 >>> On 02/12/13 04:19 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote:
8 >>>> On 12/02/2013 03:28 PM, William Hubbs wrote: [...]
9 >>>>> Also, the other message in this thread is correct; the netifrc
10 >>>>> use flag is temporary.
11 >>>>> I originally planned to release openrc-0.12.x along with a
12 >>>>> newsitem that instructed you to emerge the netifrc package if you
13 >>>>> want the legacy network stack, but some users/devs felt that
14 >>>>> Ishould go further to make sure netifrc remains installed on
15 >>>>> their systems.
16 >>>> As one of those devs, I feel now may be a good time to ask.... What
17 >>>> are we doing about this? In my opinion, anyone removing net
18 >>>> support from the stage3's should be killed with fire. That said, I
19 >>>> don't care if it's netifrc or whatever as long as it is properly
20 >>>> documented and actually usable.
21 >>>>
22 >>>> Thoughts on how we move forward?
23 >>>>
24 >>>> Thanks, Zero
25 >>>>
26 >>> Well, part of this conversation needs to be, what is the default
27 >>> networking stack that we want to have in gentoo? IMO that should
28 >>> remain netifrc but that's just my personal opinion.
29 >> I personally like netifrc default but there is no good way to use it as
30 >> default we will need to keep use flag arbitrary long or add netifrc to
31 >> @system but it will return us back to the problems of users who doesn't
32 >> want to have netifrc on their systems. And with the rise of systems and NM
33 >> the number of such users will grow. Anyway I'd like to see base system herd
34 >> vote.
35 > I would like to add a virtual/network-manager package to @system which
36 > has the following rdepend settings:
37 >
38 > RDEPEND=" || (
39 > net-misc/netifrc
40 > >=sys-apps/openrc-0.12[newnet]
41 > net-misc/badvpn
42 > net-misc/dhcpcd
43 > net-misc/netctl
44 > net-misc/NetworkManager
45 > net-misc/wicd )"
46 >
47 > Does anyone see an issue with setting it up this way?
48 >
49
50 seems like a virtual that wouldn't do anything useful except pull in
51 random package(s) a la binary-distribution style
52
53 just update the handbook to include the 'emerge netifrc' step and
54 mention it's just one possibility

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Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up William Hubbs <williamh@g.o>