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Joost Roeleveld posted on Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:33:18 +0200 as excerpted: |
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> On Thursday, September 15, 2011 09:31:45 PM Luca Barbato wrote: |
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>> On 15/09/2011 16:33, Joost Roeleveld wrote: |
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>> > Not sure if you are aware of the discussions on the gentoo-user list |
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>> > about the upcoming change where systemd and udev require /usr to be |
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>> > available prior to starting of udev. |
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>> systemd seems more and more just a support burden for no gain... |
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> Myself and a lot of others on the gentoo-user list agree with this. |
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> Especially as there are plenty of installations where udev works without |
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> /usr mounted. |
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As a kde user[1] I tend to agree, but I'm increasingly seeing talk on the |
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gnome side of the "Gnome OS", to include pulse-audio, systemd, policykit, |
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udev/u* (thus forcing lvm as well, at least lvm installation tho nothing |
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forces one to use it... yet, since lvm is required for udisks), etc. |
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Legitimate question, primarily for the gentoo/gnome folks I guess. I |
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simply don't know how it's to work but am honestly rather fearful for the |
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traditional Gentoo policy of letting the local sysadmin decide such |
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things: |
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How serious is this talk, how integrated are they actually talking, and |
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what are the implications for Gentoo's Gnome users? Is gnome 3.5 or 4.0 |
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or whatever going to require pulse-audio and systemd, on ANY |
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distribution, even Gentoo? If not, how much hacking is going to be |
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required by the gentoo/gnome folks to keep those sorts of choices for |
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Gentoo users? Will gentoo simply drop gnome as an option if it forces |
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the issue, or ??? |
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It may be that this is already sorted on the gnome side, or that all this |
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talk of gnome-os is simply hot-air, but like I said, I'm a kde user, so I |
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wouldn't know, tho I'm concerned about its implications for the rest of |
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us (including kde, since it might well end up with similar |
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requirements). And I've not yet seen it mentioned in the gentoo |
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implications context, so I'm compelled to ask. |
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[1] Tho the kde side seems headed the same direction, but at a somewhat |
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slower pace and with a bit more of a reputation for at least /some/ |
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respect of user choice, so I expect the issue to come up first and worst |
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with gnome, and gentoo/kde to be able to follow the precedent, to some |
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degree. |
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Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. |
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"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- |
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and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman |