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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev <gentoo-dev@l.g.o>
Cc: binhost@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2021 19:12:03
Message-Id: CAGfcS_m+eAAT803qXRpU+SWyUq88CSPMiE9yUEPHWysyp-awYQ@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost by "Andreas K. Hüttel"
1 On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 12:57 PM Andreas K. Hüttel <dilfridge@g.o> wrote:
2 >
3 > * what portage features are still needed or need improvements (e.g. binpkg
4 > signing and verification)
5 > * how should hosting look like
6
7 Some ideas for portage enhancements:
8
9 1. Ability to fetch binary packages from some kind of repo.
10 2. Ability to have multiple binary packages co-exist in a repo (local
11 or remote) with different build attributes (arch, USE, CFLAGS,
12 DEPENDS, whatever).
13 3. Ability to pick the most appropriate binary packages to use based
14 on user preferences (with a mix of hard and soft preferences).
15
16 One idea I've had around how #2-3 might be implemented is:
17 1. Binary packages already contain data on how they were built (USE
18 flags, dependencies, etc). Place this in a file using a deterministic
19 sorting/etc order so that two builds with the same settings will have
20 the same results.
21 2. Generate a hash of the file contents - this can go in the filename
22 so that the file can co-exist with other files, and be located
23 assuming you have a full matching set of metadata.
24 3. Start dropping attributes from the file based on a list of
25 priorities and generate additional hashes. Create symlinked files to
26 the original file using these hashes (overwriting or not existing
27 symlinks based on policy). This allows the binary package to be found
28 using either an exact set of attributes or a subset of higher-priority
29 attributes. This is analogous to shared object symlinking.
30 4. The package manager will look for a binary package first using the
31 user's full config, and then by dropping optional elements of the
32 config (so maybe it does the search without CFLAGs, then without USE
33 flags). Eventually it aborts based on user prefs (maybe the user only
34 wants an exact match, or is willing to accept alternate CFLAGs but not
35 USE flags, or maybe anything for the arch is selected.
36 5. As always the final selected binary package still gets evaluated
37 like any other binary package to ensure it is usable.
38
39 Such a system can identify whether a potentially usable file exists
40 using only filename, cutting down on fetching. In the interests of
41 avoiding useless fetches we would only carry step 3 reasonably far -
42 packages would have to match based on architecture and any dynamic
43 linking requirements. So we wouldn't generate hashes that didn't
44 include at least those minimums, and the package manager wouldn't
45 search for them.
46
47 Obviously you could do more (if you have 5 combinations of use flags,
48 look for the set that matches most closely). That couldn't be done
49 using hashes alone in an efficient way. You could have a small
50 manifest file alongside the binary package that could be fetched
51 separately if the package manager wants to narrow things down and
52 fetch a few of those to narrow it down further.
53
54 Or you could skip the hash searching and just fetch all the manifests
55 for a particular package/arch and just search all of those, but that
56 is more data to transfer just to do a query. A metadata cache of some
57 kind of might be another solution. Content hashes would probably
58 still be useful just to allow co-existence of alternate builds.
59
60 --
61 Rich

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost "Andreas K. Hüttel" <dilfridge@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost Aisha Tammy <gentoo.dev@×××××.cc>
Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost Alexey Sokolov <alexey+gentoo@××××××××.org>
Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost Jaco Kroon <jaco@××××××.za>
Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost Zac Medico <zmedico@g.o>