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From: Zac Medico <zmedico@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFD: EAPI specification in ebuilds
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2012 17:48:32
Message-Id: 4F5A4246.8080605@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFD: EAPI specification in ebuilds by Michael Orlitzky
1 On 03/09/2012 09:31 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
2 > On 03/09/12 12:11, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
3 >>>>>>> On Fri, 09 Mar 2012, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
4 >>
5 >>>> What if bash starts to parse the script completely and barfs at
6 >>>> 'syntax error' before it starts executing stuff?
7 >>
8 >>> It doesn't parse the script completely, it executes line-by-line, so
9 >>> we can bail out early.
10 >>
11 >> How can you tell that this behaviour won't be changed in a future bash
12 >> version?
13 >>
14 >
15 > Who's to say that in the future my computer won't be made out of
16 > delicious ice cream, eliminating the need for EAPIs entirely?
17 >
18 > Chances are, this would break thousands of scripts, so we hope they
19 > wouldn't do it. If it does happen, we either deal with it then, or don't
20 > upgrade to that version of bash -- the same as we would do with any
21 > other massive breaking change.
22
23 Ulrich is talking about extensions which require a newer version of
24 bash. These kinds of extensions are quite common and don't cause
25 "massive breaking" because people simply have to upgrade bash in order
26 to use the new extensions, and their old scripts continue to run because
27 the new extensions don't interfere with backward compatibility.
28
29 Your eapi() function proposal is especially fragile in this context
30 because it assumes that the installed version of bash will be able to
31 execute a script that may target a newer version of bash. This is a
32 special case that is typically not a problem, although it is a major
33 problem under the specific conditions that your eapi() function approach
34 induces.
35
36 Anyway, lets focus on our main goal, which is to decide on a way to
37 obtain the EAPI _without_ sourcing the ebuild.
38 --
39 Thanks,
40 Zac

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] RFD: EAPI specification in ebuilds Michael Orlitzky <michael@××××××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-dev] RFD: EAPI specification in ebuilds Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] RFD: EAPI specification in ebuilds Brian Harring <ferringb@×××××.com>