1 |
On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 09:00:14 +0200 |
2 |
Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> wrote: |
3 |
|
4 |
> I don't want to appear rude, but when reading this entire mail all I |
5 |
> see is someone who has probably never had to do it for real. |
6 |
|
7 |
Can you avoid top posting? Had to scroll down to see who you reply to. |
8 |
|
9 |
> People are not machines. Volunteers really do not like having their |
10 |
> freely given time nullified and access removed because one person |
11 |
> thought it was deserved. |
12 |
|
13 |
We take a positive approach instead, access is "temporarily suspended". |
14 |
|
15 |
> Do you realise the message that is sent by denying someone access? You |
16 |
> are saying that person is not good enough to work on Gentoo. Do you |
17 |
> really want to send that message? |
18 |
|
19 |
That is an assumption and depends on the actual message you send to that |
20 |
person; "temporarily suspending" someone goes with a reason. If that |
21 |
reason is to talk with the person as to fixing up the breakage, where |
22 |
afterwards the access gets restored; we're sending a different message. |
23 |
|
24 |
> Vast wholescale breakage is very rare and not something you can base |
25 |
> policy on. |
26 |
|
27 |
Policy is there to prevent wholescale breakage; imagine Gentoo without |
28 |
a policy present, that would be very rare. What do you then base on? |
29 |
|
30 |
> Rich's most recent reply is the most sane proposal I've seen so far. |
31 |
> Revoking access is a human problem and is solved with human solutions. |
32 |
|
33 |
Which message? Why is it the most sane? |
34 |
|
35 |
> Do beware the law of unintended side-effects. |
36 |
|
37 |
Or unexpected benefits? |
38 |
|
39 |
Yes, a law exists; but what are the benefits compared to the cost? |
40 |
|
41 |
-- |
42 |
With kind regards, |
43 |
|
44 |
Tom Wijsman (TomWij) |
45 |
Gentoo Developer |
46 |
|
47 |
E-mail address : TomWij@g.o |
48 |
GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D |
49 |
GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D |