1 |
On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 04:23:41AM -0500, Rajiv Aaron Manglani wrote: |
2 |
> hello all. i will be giving 2 presentations on gentoo at MIT |
3 |
> (Massachusetts Institute of Technology) in Cambridge, MA, USA, on 1/8 |
4 |
> and 1/13. they are open to anyone who rsvps. |
5 |
[...] |
6 |
|
7 |
A couple of (silly) remarks if you don't mind :) It's based on the |
8 |
presentation material available on your dev-space which you say is a bit |
9 |
outdated, so apologies if you have already fixed those issues... |
10 |
|
11 |
Page 2 of your presentation sais that Gentoo was started 5 years ago by |
12 |
Daniel. Enoch was started in 1999 (which is now 5 years ago), but the name |
13 |
Gentoo was first introduced in 2000. |
14 |
|
15 |
Page 2 of your presentation sais that Gentoo (officially?) supports x86, ppc, |
16 |
sparc and alpha. I believe hppa and mips are also officially supported and |
17 |
that amd64 is in the running. |
18 |
|
19 |
Page 5 of your presentation sais that the scripts download, compile and |
20 |
install. Perhaps you might mention "patch" too which is a very important |
21 |
aspect of the ebuilds. |
22 |
|
23 |
Page 5 of your presentation gives some outdated versions: |
24 |
glibc 2.2.5 -> 2.3.2 |
25 |
gcc 3.2.1 -> 3.2.3 |
26 |
xfree 4.2 -> 4.3 |
27 |
KDE 3.0.5 -> 3.1.4 |
28 |
Gnome 2.0.2 -> 2.4 |
29 |
|
30 |
Page 5 of your presentation gives some bootloaders (grub, lilo, yaboot, |
31 |
bootx). Perhaps you can mention the others too (aboot, milo, silo, palo)? |
32 |
|
33 |
Page 5 of your presentation gives some kernel examples. Do add 2.6 :) |
34 |
|
35 |
Page 5 of your presentation mentions prelinking and ccache. Perhaps distcc is |
36 |
worth mentioning too? |
37 |
|
38 |
Page 9 of your presentation sais that a net connection is required for |
39 |
installation, which isn't the case anymore (it was with the rc's). |
40 |
|
41 |
Page 9 of your presentation sais that it is "secure by default". I don't know |
42 |
if you should add it here, but there is a feature called sfperms which will |
43 |
improve privileges on setuid/setgid files. |
44 |
|
45 |
Page 15 of your presentation enters some "coming soon". The following items |
46 |
have already been integrated: |
47 |
- distcc |
48 |
- cpan/portage integration |
49 |
- cd-based installers |
50 |
The following projects have stopped (correct me if I'm wrong plz): |
51 |
- s/390 port |
52 |
- embedded devices (pebenito?) |
53 |
- cvsup instead of rsync |
54 |
|
55 |
Perhaps new items can be: |
56 |
- portage-ng |
57 |
- official AMD 64 support |
58 |
- udev support |
59 |
- ... |
60 |
|
61 |
Page 16 of your presentation talks about a 16-230 MiB iso images. Our basic |
62 |
has grown out of these proportions. The new size range is about 95 - 600 MiB. |
63 |
|
64 |
Page 16 of your presentations talks about the UT 2003 LiveCD, but that's |
65 |
quite old now. A UT 2004 LiveCD will probably be available (see Daniel's |
66 |
latest mails). |
67 |
|
68 |
Page 16 of your presentation talks about LiveCDs for x86 and PPC. LiveCDs are |
69 |
however available for: alpha, amd64, hppa (albeit outdated), ppc, sparc and |
70 |
x86. |
71 |
|
72 |
Page 17 of your presentation talks about the documentation. Please mention |
73 |
the handbook as primary source for: |
74 |
- installation instructions |
75 |
- portage (user-level) |
76 |
- init scripts |
77 |
- environment variables |
78 |
- USE flags |
79 |
|
80 |
Page 18 of your presentation talks about the Gentoo Community. It might be |
81 |
interesting giving some numbers. From what I gather: |
82 |
- The forums have > 1000 posts per day and over 100 000 topics |
83 |
- There are more than 15 active mailinglists and +40 mailinglist in |
84 |
general |
85 |
- #gentoo is freenode's biggest channel (700+ users) |
86 |
- We have +50 channels |
87 |
- bugtracking has more than 20 000 hits per day |
88 |
- our social contract ensures the community that |
89 |
* we will never depend on non-free software |
90 |
* we will remain freely available |
91 |
* we move bugreports upstream ourselves if needed |
92 |
* we have an open bug process/development |
93 |
|
94 |
One thing I miss in the presentation is a small talk about the organisation: |
95 |
the projects and their goals. Also mentioning the GWN would be nice (although |
96 |
you probably do that during the speach). |
97 |
|
98 |
|
99 |
And finally, the Gentoo PR project is currently working on a presentation |
100 |
template all Gentoo developers can use. I will also write up a document on |
101 |
how presentations could be created and we will try to bundle all |
102 |
presentations made for/by Gentoo so that updates in the distribution quickly |
103 |
propagate to the presentations themselves. |
104 |
|
105 |
That's it for now. |
106 |
|
107 |
Wkr, |
108 |
Sven Vermeulen |
109 |
|
110 |
-- |
111 |
^__^ And Larry saw that it was Good. |
112 |
(oo) Sven Vermeulen |
113 |
(__) http://www.gentoo.org Documentation & PR |