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From: Josh Saddler <nightmorph@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: Make developer profiles more difficult to select
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:34:12
Message-Id: 488279EE.8050205@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: Make developer profiles more difficult to select by Nikos Chantziaras
1 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
2 > Reading around on the net, it amazes me how many people are using
3 > developer profiles for their Gentoo because they think it's for software
4 > developers and don't see that it's for Gentoo developers and not
5 > intended for end users. They know the "Developer" installation profiles
6 > of other distros and think Gentoo's profiles are just the same (on those
7 > distros, selecting a dev profile just means it installs GCC + dev libs +
8 > IDEs by default.)
9 >
10 > Some kind of warning or other mechanism that does selecting this profile
11 > without knowing what you're doing would be a good idea.
12 >
13
14 *shrug* If people would _read_ the documentation, such as
15 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml or
16 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-amd64.xml?part=1&chap=6#doc_chap2,
17 then they would know what the profiles are for.
18
19 I don't think we should start making certain profiles harder to use.
20 Maybe if profiles.desc had a more explanatory entry on the developer
21 profile so that users know what's up with it. Or better yet, include an
22 entry in the eselect profile module that prints a brief description of a
23 given profile, or at least references the various documentation on profiles.
24
25 Oh, and FYI, gcc (and complete toolchain) and various development
26 libraries are already installed by default -- that's the nature of using
27 a source-based distro; all that stuff needs to be there to do anything,
28 so it's already included.
29
30 At no point will merely "selecting a new profile" actually install
31 anything. As always, you have to go through the package manager if you
32 want something installed.

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