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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:52:12
Message-Id: 20060407104950.73083d5e@snowdrop.home
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving Gentoo User Relations by Grobian
1 On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 11:33:12 +0200 Grobian <grobian@g.o> wrote:
2 | On 07-04-2006 11:07:28 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
3 | > I mean, as a purely hypothetical example... Could you imagine just
4 | > how many dumb feature requests, questions and requests for code
5 | > from the unwashed masses someone would get if they admitted to
6 | > having an early alpha of an alternative to Portage that didn't
7 | > require Python? Having to deal with the noise would be more than
8 | > enough to ensure that no more development would ever get done...
9 |
10 | This is ofcourse a purely hypothetical prediction for a hypothetical
11 | example. Another hypothesis might be that noone would care about the
12 | hypothetical alternative to Portage, hence no developer obstruction
13 | would take place at all.
14
15 That hypothesis looks unlikely, given all the discussions that took
16 place around portage-ng and the like, all the feature requests for
17 Portage on bugzilla and the countless zillions of "Portage should do
18 $x" threads on the forums. From a non-hypothetical perspective, I can
19 tell you that I received a significant number of really really stupid
20 suggestions when various developers found out about what's now called
21 eselect -- and that was with extremely limited internal publicity on a
22 far lower profile category of project than the one we're
23 hypothetically discussing.
24
25 | Yet another hypothesis might be that there
26 | would actually exist a few smart users that give some smart comments
27 | on the, in this case hypothetical, product.
28
29 This hypothesis probably holds. However, it ignores two other points:
30 Firstly, that the hypothetical noise would more than offset any
31 hypothetical advantage (little point in being given a diamond if it
32 comes in the middle of ten tonnes of horse manure and you only have
33 one shovel), and secondly that the hypothetical smart users could be
34 brought in on the hypothetical project anyway.
35
36 | Maybe user-rel should, together with GWN bridge this problem by
37 | keeping the source of news anonymous? Just to use it as teasers of
38 | what kind of things are being done in Gentoo's kitchen?
39 | Of course this only holds for new projects like in your hypothetical
40 | example.
41
42 Yikes, that's even worse than sticking them out with a name on it.
43
44 --
45 Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Wearer of the shiny hat)
46 Mail : ciaranm at gentoo.org
47 Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm

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