Re: [gentoo-dev] [openrc] [systemd] make `service` common for both OpenRC and SystemD (like Debian/Ubuntu/whatever did)

[Andrew Savchenko]

On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 02:56:08 +0700 Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote:
> Hi there!
>
> Every time I switch from mastering service on my work (Ubuntu-powered) to my
> own server farm (Gentoo powered) I'm going a bit frustrated: Ubuntu (with all
> my hate to many other things in it) has nice user-friendly way of managing
> services: you can freely call any of `service <servicename> action` irrelevant
> to which init-system is currently in use. Will it be systemd, or (whatever
> there is alternative there). `service` wrapper will detect it anyway and will
> do the proper things (forward it to either systemd or another service
> manager).
>
> I'd like to suggest to remove `service` widget from openrc and make it the
> part of (which package? baselayout?)? Here is a pseudocode of how I see it:
>
> ```
> servicename=${1}
> action=${2}
>
> if in_systemd; then
> 	systemctl "${action}" "${servicename}"
> else
> 	rc-service "${servicename}" "${action}"
> fi
> ```
>
> Well, actually, there may be some more logic (for example, instance units
> (`unit@instance` in `systemd` vs `unit.instance` in openrc), "enable" action
> (forward it to `rc-update add` for `openrc`, probably) and maybe some more.
> But anyway, the conception is something like that.
>
>
> What do you think about that?

https://xkcd.com/927/

We will create even more confusion for Gentoo users with one more
tool to do the same stuff.

Of course you are free to implement some separate wrapper package,
but it must be completely optional, since some users will have no
use for it including myself.

Really, unifying distributions is futile. We will have either the
same and only distribution (to rule them all) or an attempt will
fail. The same way you can try to unify emerge and apt tools via
some wrapper manager.

If one uses different distros, one needs to learn to switch between
them.

Best regards,
Andrew Savchenko