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> You want to become official. |
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We are official. It's not just the way things should be. |
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> In that regard, you do not get to take care of your own things anymore. |
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We will still recruit new mods/admins and take care of them. We will still moderate and administering the board and the software. We will still vote on new policies and guidelines. I fail to see what you mean by saying that. |
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> If that was the case, there would be no control over the direction developers take [...] |
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At this point there is no direct control over the direction Gentoo goes. But thats something completly different. |
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> If we say half of the global moderators are staff, and the other half |
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> are not, how are users supposed to know the difference? |
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That would be problem. - That's why all global mods/admins should become staff members. (As described in the GLEP.) |
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> Once you become official, the statements made by the forum moderators/administrators are |
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> pretty much official statements of Gentoo (to the user anyway). |
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That's the way it is already. |
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> Every developer and staff has taken the quiz [...] |
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Sorry, but thats not correct (at least to my knowledge). - Back in the good ol' days most of the developers knew each other and knew who was doing what. Taking a quiz became mandatory back in 2003 iirc. Devs who were already aboard did not need to take the quiz. |
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> [...] I fail to see what makes forum mods so special they deserve an exception; |
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We don't want to be treated special. Most of us (global mods/admins) are doing this job since years. Most of us joined before the quizes and the recruitment process were established. |
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> Again, I fail to see why the forum staff deserves an exception to the |
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> rules that every other person that is either staff for Gentoo or a |
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> developer for Gentoo has to follow. |
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Well.. that's right. Rules should be followed.* If it would be up to me everybody of us would take that quiz and we could stop this discussion. But it's not up to me. - It's not that simple. |
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Long time contributers don't see why somebody wants them to take a quiz just to be allowed to continue the work they did for years. Nobody knows the forums and the community that well as these people do. |
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Of course we could make taking the quiz mandatory for all moderators. But this would probably mean to lose some great contributors. |
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Again: Old devs did not need to take the quiz. New ones (usually) need to take the quiz. |
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The same rules should be applied to the forums-staff. New members do need to take the quiz as described in the GLEP and recruitment process. |
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[*] BTW: Check some new devs and their devbugs (if any) and you'll see that these rules do not apply to everyone. I'm not saying that this behaviour is correct; just wanted to mention that. |
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