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On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 1:14 PM Thomas Deutschmann <whissi@g.o> wrote: |
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> But that's not the point here. The point was to get some attention that |
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> again we have a lacking architecture (net-dns/dnssec-root is not the |
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> only package where ARM arch team is lacking behind) which affects anyone |
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> "trusting" somehow in STABLE keywords. |
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ARM is not a Gentoo security supported arch. |
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If the ARM maintainers feel that stable keywords make the lives of |
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their users better, and it isn't causing problems for anybody else, |
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I'm not sure why we should be interfering with this. |
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> If everyone is using ~ARCH and don't care about STABLE keywords, well, |
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> we could save a bunch of time, energy... |
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Is this costing YOU any time/energy? If not, why do you care? |
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This thread seems to be devolving into another debate about the |
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purpose of stable, and I'm mainly seeing arguments that have come up |
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countless times already. |
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Most of these arguments tend to point out things that are perceived as |
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being wrong with stable as it currently exists. Most of these |
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arguments are probably posted by people who don't even run stable, let |
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alone maintain it. |
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If somebody wants to actually "fix" stable IMO the best way to go |
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about that is to create a proposal for something new that people will |
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get behind. Gentoo tends to move forward by creating new things, not |
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by arguing about what is broken with old things. |
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What solution is even being proposed? Tell devs they're not allowed |
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to work on stable? That doesn't mean that their next thoughts will be |
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"wow, since I'm not allowed to spend 10 hours per week working on |
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something I cared about, I guess I'll spend those 10 hours per week |
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working on something that somebody else cares about." If it makes |
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Gentoo less useful to them personally, they're just as likely to just |
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drop other contributions they make on the side as they look for better |
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solutions. |
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IMO when stable teams create issues for maintainers by not being |
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responsive to bugs then this needs to be dealt with. However, the |
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Council has already allowed maintainers to drop stable keywords when |
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this happens, and I imagine they'd be responsive to dealing with |
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issues that are more sustained. |
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