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On 03/27/2012 02:01 PM, Sven Vermeulen wrote: |
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> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 07:49:00PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: |
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>> I am a bit surprised handbook still doesn't suggest people to |
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>> create a separate partition for /usr/portage tree. I remember my |
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>> first Gentoo systems had it inside / and that lead to a lot of |
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>> fragmentation, much slower "emerge -pvuDN world" (I benchmarked |
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>> it when I changed my partitioning scheme to put /usr/portage) |
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>> separate and a lot of disk space lost (I remember portage tree |
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>> reached around 3 GB of disk space while I am now running with |
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>> 300MB) |
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>> Could handbook suggest people to put /usr/portage on a different |
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>> partition then? The only doubt I have is what filesystem would be |
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>> better for it, in my case I am using reiserfs with tail enabled, |
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>> but maybe you have other different setups. |
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> To be honest, I don't think it is wise to describe it in the Gentoo |
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> Handbook just yet. I don't mind having it documented elsewhere, but |
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> the separate partition is not mandatory for getting Gentoo up and |
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> running. The instructions currently also just give an example |
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> partition layout and tell users that different layouts are |
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> perfectly possible. |
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> We need to take into consideration what is needed (must) for a |
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> Gentoo installation, what is seriously recommended (should), what |
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> is nice to have (could), etc. And for me, having a separate |
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> /usr/portage is a nice-to-have imo. |
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> Wkr, Sven Vermeulen |
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Definitely. The handbook should only cover simple, straightforward |
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setups. New users are already overwhelmed by the handbook as it is. |
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Going into details about alternate setups would only increase the |
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number of "Is there a quick start guide somewhere that I can follow" |
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or "which setup is best" questions that we currently get in #gentoo |
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and friends. |
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If anything, I'd recommend we remove some details, like getting rid of |
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the 'mirrorselect' command. (Too many people run into a non-starter |
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because of it.) |
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- - Aaron |
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