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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev <gentoo-dev@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding USE=udev to linux profiles
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 16:37:22
Message-Id: CAGfcS_mPU1=pKR71zoMyQdnOEhYwU5T167OOxhNNs0HaZ3a4nA@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding USE=udev to linux profiles by Michael Orlitzky
1 On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 12:27 PM Michael Orlitzky <mjo@g.o> wrote:
2 >
3 > On 07/24/2018 12:14 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
4 > >
5 > > I don't believe anybody suggested making Gentoo harder to customize.
6 > > This is just about setting reasonable defaults.
7 >
8 > For the (N+1)th time:
9
10 Well, if it was already said, why did you add another reply?
11
12 > enabling this flag by default does make Gentoo
13 > harder to customize, because you can't turn it off.
14
15 This was already addressed in a previous comment - PMS can be modified
16 to nullify flags, and arguably it should already work this way (though
17 that means subprofiles can't actually use -flags).
18
19 > > You can run a server without bash, openrc, sysvinit, or glibc. Should
20 > > these also be removed from the base profile?
21 >
22 > Three of those four aren't in the base profile. Yeah, it was a good idea
23 > to remove them.
24
25 It includes virtual/service-manager, which pulls in sysvinit and
26 openrc by default. You can run just fine without any service manager.
27 Just point the kernel at your daemon and it will launch it as PID 1.
28 Also, you can use sysvinit without openrc and have it launch your
29 daemon, but that also won't satisfy service-manager.
30
31 But, none of this matters, because people who REALLY want to run
32 without a service manager can do that with package.provided. Again,
33 this is about sane defaults, and having a service manager is a sane
34 default.
35
36 --
37 Rich

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding USE=udev to linux profiles Michael Orlitzky <mjo@g.o>