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On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Kent Fredric <kentfredric@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> On 13 March 2012 11:02, Mike Gilbert <floppym@g.o> wrote: |
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>>> The previous council's decision does not prevent this same glep from |
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>>> going to the council again (decisions are not forever.) |
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>>> Some folks seem to think that taking glep55 back to the council is not |
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>>> allowed somehow (or is perhaps futile, but that is a different issue |
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>>> ;p) Having the full notes would be helpful in determining why it was |
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>>> turned down back then; I'm sure a copy of the notes exist. |
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>> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/ |
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>> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20100823.txt |
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>> |
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> Well that was insightful. As suspected,, there was a lot of people |
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> saying "Yeaahh, I don't like it", and concluding there were problems |
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> with it, but the actual technical issues still haven't been presented |
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> to us. |
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> While they're still batting for the alternative solutions, which there |
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> are known potential issues with. |
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> Or did I read it selectively? |
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> Can somebody present a real ( or even theoretical ) problem that could |
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> arise from having the EAPI in the filename that isn't some abstract |
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> hand-waving? |
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> |
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> Not trying to be a troll here, but really, I still haven't seen any. |
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In general there was the 'I don't like it crowd (I was one of these, I |
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care less these days ;p)' |
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There was the 'it is Ciaran crowd.' This concept is difficult to |
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describe without a fair bit of context in how the community was being |
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run at the time. |
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None of the above reasons are what I would term 'technical merits.' |
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However now (as then) not all decisions are made on their technical |
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merits. We have adopted (and continue to adopt) solutions that are |
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imperfect, technically silly, or otherwise lots of work because they |
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meet some goal we are trying to accomplish. I don't think Gentoo is |
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alone in this aspect of management. |
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The inherent problem of course is that these merits are not provable, |
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so one cannot 'win' an argument on 'aesthetically pleasing filenames'; |
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thus we are doomed to discuss glep55 until someone makes a decision in |
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favor or the proponents of the GLEP stop trying to push it (which is |
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what happened last time.) |
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-A |
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> -- |
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> Kent |
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> perl -e "print substr( \"edrgmaM SPA NOcomil.ic\\@tfrken\", \$_ * 3, |
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> 3 ) for ( 9,8,0,7,1,6,5,4,3,2 );" |
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