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On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Ian Stakenvicius <axs@g.o> wrote: |
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> On 08/02/16 11:18 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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>> It seems like this should just be another step in the handbook - |
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>> pick your desired device manager. |
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>> This just seems more like the Gentoo way, and it completely |
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>> sidesteps all the controversy over defaults. We're already |
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>> working on fixing the few remaining functions.sh references so |
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>> that openrc can be removed from the system set as well. |
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> I thought the point of this discussion had to do mostly with what |
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> udev variant gets installed when a user doesn't specify one. And |
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> AFAIK, since there are still plenty of packages that *DEPEND on |
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> virtual/udev , the discussion's still worth having isn't it? |
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Sure, but if you've already picked which one you want as your default |
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at install time, then you won't have one pulled in as a default. If a |
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package does pull in the virtual and you didn't want it installed at |
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boot, chances are the package won't work anyway, or the dependency |
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probably shouldn't be there. |
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But, if we want to change the default it sounds like the main criteria are: |
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* lots of distros using it by default |
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* feature parity with udev |
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* encouraged by its upstream as installed |
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Sounds like systemd is the obvious default. :) |
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Oh wait, I left one out: |
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* being an in-house fork |
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Well, I suppose I could just git clone systemd from a month ago and |
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occasionally cherry-pick commits from upstream and stick that in the |
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tree. Maybe I'll rename systemd-nspawn back to nspawn to add some |
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distinctiveness. Then we can say that we're eating our own dogfood. |
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And this is why I think it is better to sidestep these sorts of |
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debates and just stick the instructions in the handbook. I don't |
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really care which is listed first - heck, we still don't have dracut |
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in there and I don't get why anybody would install a system without |
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that. (Another weekend project to do, along with integrating and |
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simplifying the systemd install instructions...) |
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Rich |
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